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SRCRS 01-26-2013 09:24 PM

Schaller Pickups?
 
Simple question, anybody ever use pickups made by Schaller? If so, what was your experience like with them?

SRCRS 01-27-2013 01:57 PM

I'm gonna assume that's no then. haha

Stuart Hmm 01-27-2013 02:03 PM

I have a set of PBX & JBX pups on my bass. Basicaly, they're copies of Dimarzio model P & model J. I'm pretty satisfied.

SRCRS 01-27-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Hmm (Post 13786379)
I have a set of PBX & JBX pups on my bass. Basicaly, they're copies of Dimarzio model P & model J. I'm pretty satisfied.

Thanks! I was beginning to think that no TBer's had ever used a Schaller pickup. Do they seem to be constructed pretty well?

abemo 01-27-2013 07:16 PM

I've never used their pups, but I've used schaller tuners and I've taken a close look at their bridges, everything I've seen from them has been top notch.

SGD Lutherie 01-27-2013 09:33 PM

I used to use them back in the 80s. Some are copies of DiMarzios, and the others are fairly standard Fender types. They are fine sounding pickups.

SRCRS 01-27-2013 09:50 PM

Thanks for the input guys. What really drew my attention was their one pup that looked like a Wal bass copy with the adjustable Allen wrench pole pieces. Do you have any knowledge of that pick up Dave?

SGD Lutherie 01-27-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SRCRS (Post 13788351)
Thanks for the input guys. What really drew my attention was their one pup that looked like a Wal bass copy with the adjustable Allen wrench pole pieces. Do you have any knowledge of that pick up Dave?

That's the Schaller 232 Bassbucker, which is a copy of the no longer made DiMarzio Model G. "G" means guitar humbucker size.

The Model G was DiMarzio's X2N guitar pickup, but with the blades removed and eight hex screws used for poles. The bobbins had the slots for the blades. It's wound about 15k and sounds like mud IMO. Very midrange heavy.

I had one in my eight string bass. I didn't like it. I ended up installing blades and putting it in a guitar.

The Schaller version was wound the same. I had a Kramer Duke that had one of them. I ended up rewinding it to be clearer sounding.

Here's the Schaller.

http://guitar-pickups.biz/hp135071/Bass-Humbucker.htm



The spec sheet:

http://guitar-pickups.biz/download/C...Bassbucker.jpg

SRCRS 01-28-2013 05:12 AM

Thanks!

raslroy 01-28-2013 05:20 AM

I've got a schaller p/u in one of my basses and have no issues with the sound it produces

jay loren 01-28-2013 06:30 AM

A bassist compared j pups on youtube a while ago: Schaller, Fender CS, etc. The Schallers sounded pretty good. Sorry, can't remember the site.

SRCRS 01-28-2013 06:36 AM

Thanks guys, Jay, i'll have to google it

Meddle 01-28-2013 07:25 AM

Didn't Carl Thompson use them in early basses?

bassclef112 01-28-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie (Post 13788425)
That's the Schaller 232 Bassbucker, which is a copy of the no longer made DiMarzio Model G. "G" means guitar humbucker size.

The Model G was DiMarzio's X2N guitar pickup, but with the blades removed and eight hex screws used for poles. The bobbins had the slots for the blades. It's wound about 15k and sounds like mud IMO. Very midrange heavy.

I have a couple of these in my LP bass, and though not quite mud they are very mid heavy. One is a DiMazio G and the other is a Schaller 232. They are for all intents and purposes identical. I wouldn't mind a little more high end clarity in them.

I also have a bass with a Schaller P/J setup and I would compare them (again) directly with DiMarzio's P and J.

Cadfael 01-28-2013 11:37 AM

We were talking about the Kramer (USA) "The Duke" of the 1980s.
This was the time when instruments from Kramer, Schecter and Charvel were "100%" made in USA and not "somewhere in Asia" (not wanting to abuse Asians!!!) ...

It seems, that the special "Double J 4-coil" pickup of The Duke with its tricky coil assembly was made by Schaller ...

In the 1980s were only two real alternatives to DiMarzio (in Germany) if you wanted a high quality "non-Fender" pickup: Schaller and Rockinger.
I chose Rockinger. The former owner of Rockinger now is the boss of "Duesenberg" ...

I think Schaller PUs are as good as Schaller tuners bridges or strap locks ...

SRCRS 01-28-2013 04:09 PM

Awesome, i was wondering about their quality since i've always heard of their bridges and tuners, but never their pickups.

SGD Lutherie 01-28-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassclef112 (Post 13790649)
I have a couple of these in my LP bass, and though not quite mud they are very mid heavy. One is a DiMazio G and the other is a Schaller 232. They are for all intents and purposes identical. I wouldn't mind a little more high end clarity in them.

You can try wiring them up in parallel. It helps brighten them up.

SGD Lutherie 01-28-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadfael (Post 13790745)
We were talking about the Kramer (USA) "The Duke" of the 1980s.
This was the time when instruments from Kramer, Schecter and Charvel were "100%" made in USA and not "somewhere in Asia" (not wanting to abuse Asians!!!) ...

It seems, that the special "Double J 4-coil" pickup of The Duke with its tricky coil assembly was made by Schaller ...

In the 1980s were only two real alternatives to DiMarzio (in Germany) if you wanted a high quality "non-Fender" pickup: Schaller and Rockinger.
I chose Rockinger. The former owner of Rockinger now is the boss of "Duesenberg" ...

I think Schaller PUs are as good as Schaller tuners bridges or strap locks ...

Odd... I answered this and the post is gone!

The early Dukes used a single Schaller Bassbucker. The later Dukes had a dual J quad coil looking pickup. Basically two of their Model J copies.

Here was the Duke I had (belongs to someone else now). It was an aluminum neck USA Kramer.


Scott in Dallas 01-28-2013 05:01 PM

My Foundation S came with Schaller pickups from the factory.

bassclef112 01-28-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie (Post 13792258)
You can try wiring them up in parallel. It helps brighten them up.

Thanks Dave. Good advice - I'll have to check with my tech as to how he did them. I left it to him as they had different wire colors and I'm not much for it myself.


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