SGD Lutherie Help.

[Barr Plays Bass]

Alright Maybe I should start from square one. So I'm a huge Fan Of Modulus sound/Lane Poor and Flea. My original goal was to make a Warmoth Bass that used David's pickups as he claimed that it was the perfect sound for recreating his tone http://www.sgd-lutherie.com/pages/SW4-M4.html is what I ordered along with his harness that came with 100K 25K and 1M.

[Bobster]

Which harness did you order? I'm guessing something on this page? http://www.sgd-lutherie.com/pages/electronics.html

[Barr Plays Bass]

Yeah That's what he reccomended for it for that "Flea" sound

[PilbaraBass]

There are two styles... The wide and the narrow... Which one did David recommend?

if you want to ask more questions here, I think you should be more forthcoming of the information that you've already been given. Otherwise, we're just playing darts in the dark

[mmbongo]

Originally Posted by oerk

For a passive circuit, yes. For a preamp, no.

This. Those values are normal for a preamp.

[Barr Plays Bass]

The pickup was narrow.

[bassgod0dmw]

Those pot values are specific to the design of that MM preamp that you bought.

Somewhere around here there is an entire thread dedicated to a DIY pre-EB 2 band Stingray preamp. It's essentially the same exact thing that SGD makes. Dig it up and you'll see exactly what parts went into it, although he does swap out a few components that are "better" that don't change the original tone.

[Funkinthetrunk]

Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

Those pot values are specific to the design of that MM preamp that you bought.

Somewhere around here there is an entire thread dedicated to a DIY pre-EB 2 band Stingray preamp. It's essentially the same exact thing that SGD makes. Dig it up and you'll see exactly what parts went into it, although he does swap out a few components that are "better" that don't change the original tone.

Exactly. The SGD preamp was created using my 1979 MM Sabre preamp as its model. It should be identical to the original. This is not an Aggie, Bart or other preamps on the market, so the pot values will be different.

Why don't you install it or get it installed and then tell us what you think, instead of raising suspicions just on hearsay.

[ILLINOX]

furthermore... ****, man; it sounds like you've had a rough run with SGD.
I haven't done business with David, but I know from watching on these forums that he is knowledgeable, patient, and mostly friendly. Maybe you two got off on a bad foot.
But you came here for advice on dealing with him and you've got a lot of it: the people have told you that he's the real deal. So maybe it's time to look back on your conversations with him and see where you may have antagonized the response out of him that you claim that you got.

either way, good luck with your build. You've started off right by talking to these people. They'll lead you to the light.

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by Barr Plays Bass

Yes I have received what I ordered, and long story short I'm new to this, But. I was informed of several people saying these were just pickups out of a old 100 Buck bass you know? And Since He lied several times about sending the part and only send it cause we threatened legal action. I was wondering if someone actually had one of the Labeled laser etched pickups that said SGD, As for the pots on it it was a 100K 25K and 1M for Volume treble and bass. And pretty much wanted to know if anyone had problems with it working because when I go out to buy the new soldering iron I was going to buynew pots.

Hi Brandon,

First off, that is a hand made pickup. Who said it was from a $100 bass? Your 16 year old friends? mmbongo bought some of the same pickups from me.

Why on earth would you buy new pots? Those are high quality Bourns pots and are the values that the preamp needs. They are not the same values as used for passive pickups. They are part of the preamp circuit.

Since you are asking about pot values, did you intend on changing the values? The preamp wont operate correctly if you change the pots.

The only thing you need to do is connect the pickup to the white wire, as shown in the diagram supplied with the preamp. The rest of the preamp is completely wired and ready to use. As in the instructions, connect the black and white wires together on the pickup to run it in series. The green goes to ground and the red connects to the white wire on the preamp. That's all you have to do.

If you have any questions about the installation, drop me an email. You really only need to solder four wires. Clearly you are young, so if you feel uncomfortable installing the preamp bring it to a qualified tech. It shoudn't run you more than $30 for the install since it's pre wired.

Regarding your order, you bought a MM pickup and 2-band preamp June 8th. As I told you, and everyone else, I got divorced in April, and had to move in May. It was all very sudden. So through all of May and most of June, I did not get a lot of work done. I think it was your grand mother that had been emailing me. No one was lying to you, but my ship times did slip quite a few times. I'm still getting caught up from that.

[MPU]

Originally Posted by Barr Plays Bass

I was just curious because I'm looking to become a luth and go to school.

School is good place for you since it looks like you can't find any information yourself. Please let someone qualified guitar technician wire the pickup and preamp, try them and then come back and tell how they work. Please keep your and your friends fingers out of the pickup and preamp.

[tylerwylie]

Hey Dave, question for when they come in... I have a 500k ohm push/pull dpdt volume pot that I want to use with these pickups. Is it possible to have the volume push/pull pot switch the humbuckers from parallel to series? I'm still trying to find a 500k blend pot, I have a 250k but think I'd prefer a 500k..

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

Back up for a second...pot values are basically decided by what a user wants to hear (like 250K vs 500K) or the type of pickups/preamp that you're using. With the values you're talking about, I'm guessing you've got active pickups?

What equipment did you order? That would make things a lot easier.

Whoever you're getting this info from doesn't seem like they know what they're talking about.

He's talking about the pots attached to a 2-band Musicman style preamp. It uses a 100k for bass, 1M for treble and 25k for volume.

[bassgod0dmw]

Originally Posted by SGD Lutherie

He's talking about the pots attached to a 2-band Musicman style preamp. It uses a 100k for bass, 1M for treble and 25k for volume.

That reply was before he mentioned what he bought.