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02-05-2010, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry J  The board on the left is how any soldered board should look whether wave solder or hand solder. It's not that difficult to do. | I think it's way difficult to do. 
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02-05-2010, 02:13 PM
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Humans can't solder like that. I wish they could that would have made my job all the more easier.
The one on the left is done by a machine the one on the right looks to be done by hand.
The one on the right is a little messy from that angle. The one I'm looking at is tighter.
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02-05-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Metropolis_488 seriously.
Who cares if the soldering could have been done more cleanly...if it works, so what? - it's not like you have to look at it all the time once it's installed. Also, the thing was $35! not $135.
I just had to labor through 3 pages are crap when all I was hoping for was a review of how it performed. Sometimes I really hate this forum. | Workmanship is important if you have to go through the trouble of installing something or pay somebody to install it. And nothing is worse that a failure at a gig.
Sometimes you have to dig through the chaff to get to the grain. 
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02-05-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CapnSev Sooo... Anybody got this thing working yet? I'm really curious to hear it/get a review of the tone. | I've got two. One in an OLP and one in a stompbox. It sounds like a two band Stingray with a Stingray pickup. In the stompbox on other basses I've found it very useful for eq and getting more headroom out of lower watt tube amps. |
02-05-2010, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by moobass Humans can't solder like that. | 
I just now whipped that out; took less than a minute, and I didn't even use a magnifying lens. |
02-05-2010, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bongomania I just now whipped that out; took less than a minute, and I didn't even use a magnifying lens. | You're so dreamy, I want to be just like you when I grow up.  |
02-05-2010, 04:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Diego | | The sound is close to the pre-EB StingRays. I owned a 1977 StingRay so I would know. It doesn't overkill with the highs. For my tastes I prefer this vintage tone over the modern preamps. But of course you already have to have a decent pickup. If the pickup is junk no preamp is going to make it sound better. If you listen to a song called "Runnin' For Your Lovin" it kinda sounds like Louis' bass. Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnSev Sooo... Anybody got this thing working yet? I'm really curious to hear it/get a review of the tone. |
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02-05-2010, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BassLife77 The sound is close to the pre-EB StingRays. I owned a 1977 StingRay so I would know. It doesn't overkill with the highs. For my tastes I prefer this vintage tone over the modern preamps. But of course you already have to have a decent pickup. If the pickup is junk no preamp is going to make it sound better. If you listen to a song called "Runnin' For Your Lovin" it kinda sounds like Louis' bass. | You happen to know what the DC resistance on your pup? I'm thinking about rewinding one. My clone pup is 2k per coil. I'm thinking of rewinding it with some 42 Formvar wire and Alnico V magnets. I think that's what Leo used originally. I hear resistance values from 2k to 5k are to be found. |
02-05-2010, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by moobass You're so dreamy, I want to be just like you when I grow up.
| This show a high level of maturity and adds credibility to your point.
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02-05-2010, 06:36 PM
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02-05-2010, 07:07 PM
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The sound is close to the pre-EB StingRays. I owned a 1977 StingRay so I would know. It doesn't overkill with the highs. For my tastes I prefer this vintage tone over the modern preamps. But of course you already have to have a decent pickup. If the pickup is junk no preamp is going to make it sound better. If you listen to a song called "Runnin' For Your Lovin" it kinda sounds like Louis' bass.
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What value pots did you use?
I've got a 25K for volume, Reverse 500K audio for treble (schematic calls for 1M RA), and 100K for bass.
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02-05-2010, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by moobass
Humans can't solder like that. I wish they could that would have made my job all the more easier.
The one on the left is done by a machine the one on the right looks to be done by hand. | Actually Moo that is the standard I hold soldering too. It can be done by hand.
Hopefully Bongo will post a after picture. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry J Workmanship is important if you have to go through the trouble of installing something or pay somebody to install it. And nothing is worse that a failure at a gig.
Sometimes you have to dig through the chaff to get to the grain. | Bah! Jerry we are just electronics pros we don't know jack. We get to point and laugh if one of these get intermittent though.
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02-05-2010, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by throbgod13 i'd give 15 bucks for just the PCB and a correct and clear schematic/parts list.. | Looks like the only way to get a pcb is to roll your own. Or use perf. Evidently there's no consensus yet on a correct schematic.
You might contact the Ebay seller and see if he'll sell you a kit. You never know... |
02-05-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spideyjg Actually Moo that is the standard.. | Spidey that board on the left is machine soldered or what's known as flow soldering. Sure you might be able to make everyone of your solder connections look like that by hand. If you were working for Fender by the time you're finished you most likely would be finishing up your board on the unemployment line.  |
02-05-2010, 08:55 PM
| | | | For all the sh*t talking and disregard for this guys livelihood are you guys planning on returning your preamps that you think are so poorly made? |
02-05-2010, 11:14 PM
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Exar went out of business, so... | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | You're the only one doing any **** talking here.
I'm doing what I said I would do: fixing it. 
It's still not "pretty", but it is actually difficult to make someone else's bad work like that look good. There are a couple of larger blobs I had to leave in, because it turned out those were jumpers over gaps in the circuit traces.
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Reason: clarifying what kind of work is difficult.
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02-06-2010, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bongomania I'm doing what I said I would do: fixing it. | Bongo did you test it first to see if it needed fixing? Just saying  |
02-06-2010, 01:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego | | | Circular argument Moo. Some of would never trust any thing with that "quality" of a solder job So we are at an impasse.
That may be good enough for Fender but not in the real electronics world. Any of my techs handed me a solder job like that they have to redo it. In fact one thing you had to do in qualification process is pass a soldering test that was evaluated under a microscope.
In my world peoples lives depend on the gear and therefore your solder joints. Stuff like this preamp is unemployment line quality.
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02-06-2010, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by moobass Bongo did you test it first to see if it needed fixing? Just saying | Not trying to stir the pot here, but Bongo is the reason I even read further into this thread. His reviews are pretty highly regarded on this forum.
I am pretty anxious to hear what he thinks about the RE-finished product, and I'm sure others are too  |
02-06-2010, 02:12 PM
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