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Old 02-04-2007, 04:37 AM
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After installing a pair of Villex pickups to a great bass of mine (restoring the absent punch and clarity caused from the original pickups) I was really impressed with the outcome (both in terms of tone and tone shaping possibilities). So I thought of trying the Villex Passive Booster.

The truth of the matter is that Villex pickups are not shy on the output and they don't really need a boost; on the other hand it would be nice to see the tone shaping possibilities provided with this booster.

So I went ahead and contacted Villex regarding the booster (if it would be possible to install it on a bass). I hardly ever use the tone pot myself (many of the bass players i've asked over the years they don't touch their tone pot either) so I asked Villex If I could completely remove the tone pot from the circuit (the bass still has 3 holes drilled) and replace that one with the Booster. Villex informed me that the booster can be used with the bass (just like it would be used with a guitar) and that the tone pot could be completely removed from the circuit, if I chose that. He informed me though that the treble shaping part of the Villex circuit would not be available (once the tone pot was removed the tone would be like being fully open) but the mid-control would be fully functional.

So I went ahead and replaced the tone pot with the Villex Passive Booster. If replacing the original pickups and circuit with the Villex p/ups and pots was easy, then replacing the tone pot with the four position rotary booster was 10 times easier.

It's a four position rotary booster. On the by-pass position the bass was the same great bass as before. When I engaged the first position there was a subtle yet noticable boost of mids and lows. The sound became a little louder and thicker without loosing the original character. Positions 2 and 3 gradually increase the amount of boost more but the boost never goes into extreme or unmusical territory. The Mid-control is fully functional and I was really impressed with the tone pallete that was in front of me, provided by one single PASSIVE instrument!!!

I tried the bass with a band that has a very diverse playlist (acoustic numbers, AOR, reggae, heavy, swing, disco etc). I hardly needed to touch the boost most of the times. eg in acoustic numbers I'd use the brigde p/up w/ the mid-control to tame the mids and then go back to full mids on the loud numbers. Did I mention the Villex p/ups have good output? guess I have

But when I needed a sweet singing fingerstyle tone, make a passage stand out a bit more , or I needed to play the D and G strings way up high in the neck, the booster was heaven. It thickened the sound without making it muddy, indistinct or annoyingly loud. The best thing? It's TOTALLY PASSIVE!!!! (battery-free)

If I had a bass with a decent to great tone but with weak to medium output, I'd consider replacing the tone pot with a Villex booster (not on a vintage bass though). It's cheaper and easier than replacing the pickups, needs no modification, does not change the character of the bass on the by-pass position (unlike pickups replacing) and it's totally reversible (I doubt that anyone will ever want to remove it once he/she listens to it). Even on the 3 boost positions the bass retains it's character.

I am trully amazed.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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If I had a bass with a decent to great tone but with weak to medium output, I'd consider replacing the tone pot with a Villex booster (not on a vintage bass though)...
I would not place the booster on a vintage bass, so I would not devaluate it by modifying it
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:58 AM
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thanks for the info, frb. i just installed my villex set last night. i love them (though it seems that the parts supplier i used for the pots has sent me linear taper, rather than audio, so i will have to redo things a bit)! i too was wondering re: the use of the booster and omitting the tone control altogether. this is great news
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I am happy to hear that. As far as pots go, I'll stick with WD; I've tried All Parts and they were really useless. On the tone pot you can even use a 1MΩ value; it bleeds even less highs.

With the Villex booster (in conjuction with the mid-control) it's the first time that I can manipulate the tone and boost and still be totally passive. By the way, do you ever use the tone control to tame highs?
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:58 PM
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well, a bit of a retraction...i was sent audio taper pots. the wiring diagram on the villex web site is not accurate as far as using two volume controls. volumes would only work at full. i pulled some pots from a working bass, same thing. reassembled the harness three times today, according to the villex specs. after no success, i ended installing some 28 year old barts, with the suspect pots...no problems! i'll have to email villex for a proper diagram, but as it stands now, those almost 30 year old barts sound mighty fine (passive).
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M.oreilly, all you probably have to do is reverse the leads of the pickup and output for each pot.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:55 PM
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M.oreilly, all you probably have to do is reverse the leads of the pickup and output for each pot.
well, the barts have the leads and outputs going to the same lugs...did you check the villex diagrams and find an issue there?
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:00 AM
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On my Warrior bass, I originally wired the pickups with vol/vol configuration; only later I changed into vol/blend (which is more familiar to me). In both cases the bass worked fine.

In this bass, I have wired the leads to a double vol pot and still have no issues. I'd definitely contact Villex to inform about this issue.
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