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Old 04-11-2011, 05:57 PM
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So my buddy took his guitar amp back that we have been using as a vocal amp. So I decided to use a Y cable to have the vocals come out of my amp while I play bass. But there's a major volume loss. Fix? Info? Advice? Thanks
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If you are trying to run two signals into one input without buffering them first, you are decreasing the impedance.

You need to buffer the signals first. Try a small mixer.
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If you are trying to run two signals into one input without buffering them first, you are decreasing the impedance.

You need to buffer the signals first. Try a small mixer.
How exactly do I buffer them the cheapest way possible and what is buffering?
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How exactly do I buffer them the cheapest way possible and what is buffering?
Small mixer.

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Yes small mixer. Get at least a ten ch one so its useful long term for many things. Some thing like the Yamaha MG102C is only $100 bucks. You can find smaller cheaper mixers of course. I used to have a little 4ch one asbout the size of 2 cigg packs side by side. But you get so much more mileage out of bigger ones like 10 or more ch's. Then when band switches over to all instruments thru nice PA for main sound, you got nice starter mixer for that.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:36 PM
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Any way to make a two channel mixer? Lol pedal board sized?
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:43 PM
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Get a PA...or at least a powered PA cab with an onboard mixer.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:13 PM
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radioshack may have a two channel mixer
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:15 PM
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Is there a pedal that can do the trick?
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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Do both signals have to be buffered with the same device or can I get away with just buffering the vocals signal with a small device and leaving the bass signal alone?
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Do both signals have to be buffered with the same device or can I get away with just buffering the vocals signal with a small device and leaving the bass signal alone?
The purpose of the mixer is to allow you to combine the two signals without just putting them in parallel. They must be summed together to one output, from one device.
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Is there a pedal that can do the trick?
Rolls probably makes something that will work, but you're still looking to spend about the same as the bigger, more functional mixer as recommended above.



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Old 04-12-2011, 11:31 PM
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The purpose of the mixer is to allow you to combine the two signals without just putting them in parallel. They must be summed together to one output, from one device.
If there is a little pedal-cased device that I could make to do this job, I'd be one happy bassist. I can solder and figure things out, just need some info if it is in fact possible. I'm thinking three jacks on a EHX Bassballs sized pedal encasing with two knobs for volume on each line and then the appropriate whatever is needed on the inside.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:55 AM
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Would that work if I put all that into a pedal box correctly? Just need a quick yes or no guys
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