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Old 11-15-2009, 11:56 PM
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I am the owner of a beautiful 1978 jazz bass that i absolutely love, I have been playing it for about 5 years now and am thinking about changing the pickups.
Whoever the owner was before me decided to rip out the stock pickups and replace them with Seymor Duncans of some kind. Perhaps QP's?
I am not sure as there is nothing to tell what they are on the pickup casing, but I can notice a faded SD logo.
I find that while I like the low register of the bass, there is much too much "nashy-ness" in the higher register, especially the G-string.
when taking a fill while playing with a band, the G string is basically unheard, with the exception of the percussive grind from the string.

I have done a search and read many threads on this, but most of the threads seem to be based around 'hot' pickup replacements for their jazz bass.
I, on the other hand, love the woody tone of the jazz bass, and am just chasing a natural, fuller sound of the actual guitar, not so much a coloured, or loud sound.

So any suggestions to get a classic jazz bass sound with not too much rumble, but keeping those high frequencies under wraps? I long to hear my G string in a band situation, like I would on a Ricky (without the wooliness).

I am currently looking at a set of Aero J bass replacements, probably type 1. Am I heading down the right path? Any similar suggestions?

I have only heard the Aeros recorded online, but as you know, it is so hard to tell with so many variables in the signal chain.

I am not afraid of a lower output if it means a fuller richer, woodier sound.

Thanks guys!

Rob
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:05 AM
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DiMarzio Ultra Jazz.
I have an early 2000's American Standard Jazz that I bought used that had them already in it, and I think they fit your bill perfectly. Better still, I just spent a week in the studio with an A-list rock producer and of all the basses on hand, this humble American Standard J was the star of the show. Not a ton of output as you say, but you can HEAR the wood, and you get a very supportive, smooth low end and really useable, warm top. Highly recommended.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:03 AM
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I'd go with Fender Custom Shop 60's. Or if you got the money,the Seymour Duncan Antiquity jazz pickups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXFPoC8JA2I They got a nice vintage and woody tone,but they're pretty pricey.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:12 AM
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Yeah I was also considering those Antiquity II pickups! So the Fender custom shop 60's are okay, but you would pick the Antiquitys over them?

DiMarzio Ultra Jazz I shall look into. The general consensus I was getting from other bassists was that Dimarzio pickups have a tendency of colouring the sound a fair amount more than other pickups.
This is just what I have heard, I haven't heard the pickups myself...
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If I had the money, I think I'd take the antiquitys over the fenders. But if not,the custom shop pickups are hardly bad pickups.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:41 AM
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i'd have to vote for the dimarzio model j pups..
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:14 AM
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The UltraJazz are some of the hottest J pickups I've encountered...they may not be your thing.

Being a DiMarzio guy, I vote for SD Antiquitys for what you're wanting to do
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Give that baby the justice it deserves.

True reproduction of Jazz bass pickup with string balance second to none...

Norstrand NJ4

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Old 11-16-2009, 05:32 AM
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Ah I knew it was only a matter of time until norstrand got mentioned!! The norstand get a lot of love around here, gotta be for a reason... So the ultra bass is pretty hot eh? Not too coloured though? I have to keep my bass woody-ness!!
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Yea...I've always heard Dimarzios as being really hot pickups...which made me wonder why people were listing them.

What is your budget?
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:18 AM
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I find Ultra-Jazz to be a tad scooped and hi-fi compared to stock J pickups, which have more upper mid bark. I'm switching to NJ4's.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:48 AM
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I find Ultra-Jazz to be a tad scooped and hi-fi compared to stock J pickups, which have more upper mid bark. I'm switching to NJ4's.
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Not that the Ultra's are bad but they are what they are.
You will be stoked with the NJ4s
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:04 AM
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For the kind of warm, classic Jazz tone you're talking about, my first-thought recommendation is the Seymour Duncan SJB-1 Vintage single coil set:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...b1_vintage_fo/

For a noiseless take, try the STK-J1 Classic Stacks:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...kj1_classic_f/

Hope that helps.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:19 AM
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Maybe my DiMarzios are set a bit low from the strings or something-I dunno--in my bass they are most definitely not hot. In fact the bass is kinda quiet. My Glaub (different animal admittedly) is MUCH hotter output. I don't have another Jazz to compare them to though. In my instrument they sound natural and "woody"--not hi-fi. But they have a very nice and "big-ish" low end. Fingers and pick, it cuts through very nicely in the mids too (not particularly scooped to my ears).
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:45 PM
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My budget is whatever it needs to be, I am not really worried how much I have to pay if it means that I'll find something I'll love.
In other threads I have read that some people are finding the norstrands to be a tad thin in the upper register, any knowledge of this?
No one has mentioned the Aeros yet, have I been barking up the wrong tree?
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:30 PM
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If warmth is what you're after...

Bartolini Classic Bass Series, 9CBJD1, have been the ticket for me. I use the 5-string equivalent in my Am. Std. Jazz 5, and they sound so warm, smooth, and classy it's ridiculous. It's bass tone that makes you smile.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:07 PM
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I, on the other hand, love the woody tone of the jazz bass, and am just chasing a natural, fuller sound of the actual guitar, not so much a coloured, or loud sound.
a classic jazz bass sound with not too much rumble, but keeping those high frequencies under wraps?
Seems to point to the NJ4's, from what many who used them say and sound clips I've heard.

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In other threads I have read that some people are finding the norstrands to be a tad thin in the upper register, any knowledge of this?
No one has mentioned the Aeros yet, have I been barking up the wrong tree?
I haven't read or heard "thin" in upper register. But refined, pleasant and not over bearing . That may just fit your request.
Aero's that I've played were modern deep and modern in highs. Somewhat brash and not necessarily smooth or woodie.

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Old 11-21-2009, 03:43 PM
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The UltraJazz are some of the hottest J pickups I've encountered...they may not be your thing.

Being a DiMarzio guy, I vote for SD Antiquitys for what you're wanting to do
I love the Ultra Jazz set in my CV Jazz, very grindy, especially with the GHS Brite Flats. But I agree that the tone may not be what the OP is looking for.
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I, on the other hand, love the woody tone of the jazz bass, and am just chasing a natural, fuller sound of the actual guitar, not so much a coloured, or loud sound.

So any suggestions to get a classic jazz bass sound with not too much rumble, but keeping those high frequencies under wraps?
that also suggests 250k pots, which it would have had originally, but which might have been changed for brighter 500ks (which i myself like for a more "grindy" sound).
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:52 PM
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Maybe my DiMarzios are set a bit low from the strings or something-I dunno--in my bass they are most definitely not hot.
Maybe you have them wired parallel instead of series? That would halve the output. The Ultra J is the highest output bass pickup that DiMarzio makes.
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