what pre to cop that Stingray tone ??

[NorCal Dog]

i've got a beater Fernandes that i use alot on gigs, with a Nordy MM4.2 in it, currently passive.



i need a good 2 or 3 band pre to put in it to give it that Stingray tone.

what would you put in it ?

J East MMSR, Aguilar OBP-3,, or ???

[allexcosta]

Although I like the East, it adds too much color to the sound, so maybe an OBP-1 or 3 or maybe an external Tone Hammer would do the trick.

[Trevorus]

Uh, a pre pulled from an Ernie Ball?

[funkifiedsoul]

especially considering it's passive....Sadowski Pre-amp stomp box.

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by Trevorus

Uh, a pre pulled from an Ernie Ball?

i'm looking for an aftermarket pre,, as the real deal is hard to find, unless you've got one lying around that you want to part with ?

[NorCal Dog]

not looking for stompboxes, been there, done that

i need a good onboard pre for this one

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by allexcosta

Although I like the East, it adds too much color to the sound, so maybe an OBP-1 or 3 or maybe an external Tone Hammer would do the trick.

i have no experience with the OBP-3,, i've heard it's pretty aggressive

it may be what i'm looking for in this case

[Stealth]

It's a Nordy MM4.2? Why not complement it with a Nordy pre, as well? Supposedly it's a very good combo.

[basadam]

Originally Posted by allexcosta

Although I like the East, it adds too much color to the sound

Are you talking about his X-Retro or BTB MMSR? MMSR is designed specifically to "mimic" pre-EB Stingray preamp - not that I tried it. Here it is: http://www.bestbassgear.com/east-musicman-preamp.htm

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by basadam

Are you talking about his X-Retro or BTB MMSR? MMSR is designed specifically to "mimic" pre-EB Stingray preamp - not that I tried it. Here it is: http://www.bestbassgear.com/east-musicman-preamp.htm

the BTB MMSR,,,, the only issue with that pre is, it looks like the pots are ment to mount on a thin plate, instead of thru a wood body, if the threaded shaft on the pots are at least 3/8" it will work without any mods to the body, if it's less than 3/8", i'll have to rout the body to compensate, ( no biggie ), as i'll have to rout anyways for a dual battery box.

has anyone out there in TB land installed the MMSR in their Stingray ?

[JTE]

Have you considered the Seymour Duncan/Basslines preamp? I have one in my fretless and really like it. Heck, they might even sell you the one they make for their MM PUP.

jte

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by JTE

Have you considered the Seymour Duncan/Basslines preamp? I have one in my fretless and really like it. Heck, they might even sell you the one they make for their MM PUP.

jte

does anybody here use the STC-3M3 pre ?

[Jarno]

Does anybody here have the schematic for the MM (either older or newer, 2 or 3 eq)? I wonder what makes them tick. I would expect the pickup to be the biggest influence on the sound, but perhaps a particular choice of centerfrequencies determine the sound.

Best regards,

Jarno.

[i2k]

Originally Posted by Jarno

Does anybody here have the schematic for the MM (either older or newer, 2 or 3 eq)? I wonder what makes them tick. I would expect the pickup to be the biggest influence on the sound, but perhaps a particular choice of centerfrequencies determine the sound.

Best regards,

Jarno.

I have the preamp schematic & PCB layout of the original pre EB MM...PM me your email address. IMHO it doesn't look like any other preamp.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by NorCal Dog

i've got a beater Fernandes that i use alot on gigs, with a Nordy MM4.2 in it, currently passive.



i need a good 2 or 3 band pre to put in it to give it that Stingray tone.

what would you put in it ?

J East MMSR, Aguilar OBP-3,, or ???

TBer Mikebass has a Valenti with that pickup in the MM position. He has a Sadowsky pre installed, and it just NAILS the MM tone. I would assume the Aguilar OB-1 would be cool also, and lower cost. I don't think the OB-3 or East would be your best option, since hte OB-3 is a touch hi fi to my ear, and the East pre's really have their own voice that doesn't seem to be that close to the MM thing.

The only thing you won't get is the series/parallel/single settings, but the parallel default results in what most consider the 'MM sound'.

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by KJung

TBer Mikebass has a Valenti with that pickup in the MM position. He has a Sadowsky pre installed, and it just NAILS the MM tone. I would assume the Aguilar OB-1 would be cool also, and lower cost. I don't think the OB-3 or East would be your best option, since hte OB-3 is a touch hi fi to my ear, and the East pre's really have their own voice that doesn't seem to be that close to the MM thing.

The only thing you won't get is the series/parallel/single settings, but the parallel default results in what most consider the 'MM sound'.

thanks for you're input KJung, will look into both the Sadowsky & the OB-1

[NorCal Dog]

Originally Posted by KJung

TBer Mikebass has a Valenti with that pickup in the MM position. He has a Sadowsky pre installed, and it just NAILS the MM tone. I would assume the Aguilar OB-1 would be cool also, and lower cost. I don't think the OB-3 or East would be your best option, since hte OB-3 is a touch hi fi to my ear, and the East pre's really have their own voice that doesn't seem to be that close to the MM thing.

The only thing you won't get is the series/parallel/single settings, but the parallel default results in what most consider the 'MM sound'.

just ordered the Sadowsky pre,, thanks

[NorCal Dog]

here's an update,,

ordered the Sadowsky but with the VTC, & when it came in, i installed it in another bass that i had here that was screaming for a good pre for quite awhile, a Peavey Grind / Nordstrand FatStacks / coil tap. WOW !!! totally transformed this bass.

now back to the Fernandes/ Nordstrand MM4.2,,, ordered & installed an Aggy OBP1 which is a 2 band boost only pre, & it definitely was what i was looking for to cop that stingray tone, it's wired parallel & dialing up the bass control gives it all the added grunt & lows that's been lacking, & dialing up the treble gives it all the definition & clank that's inherent with the stingray tone, ( especially when using a pick ) LOVE THIS BASS

[twobit]

Now we need some sound clips