Where can I buy paper in oil capacitors???

[dwc3690]

Anyone know some good websites?

Thanks,
Dan C.

[b_carville]

Maybe Angela Instruments.

Their stock is always changing.Check their website.

[Jim C]

Hope Steve doesn't read this site and don't tell him I told you but:

http://www.singlecoil.com/shop.html

I can't believe that a particular cap in oil is that much better than a high quality cap, but there are some anal retentive types like this buyer:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=320352666381

There are other oil caps on ebay as well for a pair under $10

[RustyAxe]

I don't get it. Why bother. A capacitor that functions as rated is a capacitor ... period. All the BS is just that.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by RustyAxe

I don't get it. Why bother. A capacitor that functions as rated is a capacitor ... period. All the BS is just that.

+1. The signal you hear doesn't go through the cap anyway. Many seem to not realize this.

[Jim Breece]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

+1. The signal you hear doesn't go through the cap anyway. Many seem to not realize this.

Jeez. I've been playing for 38 years and messing with the electronics almost as long and that had never struck me. I did know I couldn't hear the difference between cheap and expensive caps, but I thought that was from a 1969 MC5 concert in a small auditorium.

[r379]

Originally Posted by Jim Breece

Jeez. I've been playing for 38 years and messing with the electronics almost as long and that had never struck me. I did know I couldn't hear the difference between cheap and expensive caps, but I thought that was from a 1969 MC5 concert in a small auditorium.

I'll bet that was a loud show! I remember listening to their records way back when.

P.S. We just gave away our ages. That was so long ago many of our fellow TBers weren't even born yet.

[dmusic148]

Kick out the jams!!!

[dwc3690]

Originally Posted by RustyAxe

I don't get it. Why bother. A capacitor that functions as rated is a capacitor ... period. All the BS is just that.

So for instance. Every .047uf 100V 10% cap, regardless what it is made of will sound EXACTLY the same?

Thanks,
Dan C.

[Jim C]

This will be a huge can o' worms, but having searched a huge number of threads here as well as the associated links from suppliers and test reports my condensed version is:

* Many feel / claim that cheap ceramic caps are not the best and that a decent polyester or metal film capacitor might sound better / smoother (whatever that means) and are cheap (available at Radio Shack for 2 for $2)
* Some think the Sprague orange drop caps are real good and they too are cheap on ebay ($5)
* For a bass there is probably no gain for paper in oil but they can be bought for as little as $5; some say they are good in amps because they distort

For me; I'm leaving the vinatge basses alone and using orange drops because I have some laying around; if I need a different value, I'm going to Radio Shack

Early Fenders had paper in oil (which are now repro'd) then changed to ceramic
Experts here could tell you when that happened
.02

[pbd]

Originally Posted by r379

I'll bet that was a loud show! I remember listening to their records way back when.

P.S. We just gave away our ages. That was so long ago many of our fellow TBers weren't even born yet.

we are not old, just experienced lol

Todd

[marwady]

Originally Posted by Jim Breece

Jeez. I've been playing for 38 years and messing with the electronics almost as long and that had never struck me. I did know I couldn't hear the difference between cheap and expensive caps, but I thought that was from a 1969 MC5 concert in a small auditorium.

This post gives the acronym LOL new meaning (I actually farted as I laughed!!!)

Yep, those guys and Blue Cheer at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit were so loud, my ears hurt OUTSIDE the building (had to leave early).

Seriously though, my experience is that a cap is a cap is a cap. If you can tell the diff, than God bless ya and go for the oil/paper wrap with ricotta cheese in the middle caps and have a blast.

I think (no flame please, just my opinnion) we tend to get a bit carried away with this stuff.

Just my .02

[76JazzRay]

I bought a set of Lindy Fralins for my 1976 Jazz from Angela Instruments and they included a free paper in oil .047 cap. Not sure if this what Lindy recommends or just something Angela Inst. does. Either way, I put it in. It was a PITA because it's so big and the cavity is so small. Had to wrap it in electrical tape to ensure it didn't short something out.

Not saying I can hear a difference because of the cap, but those Fralins sound awesome.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by dwc3690

So for instance. Every .047uf 100V 10% cap, regardless what it is made of will sound EXACTLY the same?

Thanks,
Dan C.

Yes, because it doesn't 'sound' like anything. The signal you hear doesn't go through it, at all. What does go through it is the high-frequency content you are throwing away, to ground. If you know how the circuit works you'll understand.

[marwady]

Originally Posted by 76JazzRay

I bought a set of Lindy Fralins for my 1976 Jazz from Angela Instruments and they included a free paper in oil .047 cap. Not sure if this what Lindy recommends or just something Angela Inst. does. Either way, I put it in. It was a PITA because it's so big and the cavity is so small. Had to wrap it in electrical tape to ensure it didn't short something out.

Not saying I can hear a difference because of the cap, but those Fralins sound awesome.

I must agree!!

I went to Fralins and Nordstrands originally for thier stacked Jazz pups because noise makes me crazy but man, do they deliver that vintage Fender tone or what!!

[marwady]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

Kick out the jams!!!

BTW, I remember going to a head shop in East Detroit to get the "Uncensored" version of that LP when I was a kid.

I heard that tune on the radio awhile ago and thought, "Well, if you can't play well, play loud".

I paid 5 bucks for that record so I guesss the joke's on me.