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01-08-2009, 09:09 PM
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I was installing a new set of split P's in my SX PJ and a wire on the tone pot got loose. I re soldered it (very messily) back to where I thought it was, but now it won't work anymore, no sound at all, not even buzzing when I plug it in. What should I do?
This is what the joint looks like now:
This is what I believe it was and currently is:
Help?
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01-08-2009, 09:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: metro Phoenix, AZ | | | Nothing is going out (BTW, it's an OUTPUT jack).
I'm not an expert, but it looks like in your diagram, you're grounding one output jack wire and the tone pot middle terminal, both, to the tone pot chassis.
According to the SD diagram, one of the wires from the output jack should go to the middle terminal of the tone pot, and the other output jack wire has to go to ground.
Good luck.
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01-08-2009, 10:13 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | Man, you really soldered like a pig. There are chances for shortcuts everywhere.
I wouldn't be surprised if you fried the cap of a pot track either. | 
01-08-2009, 10:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba Ghanoosh (BTW, it's an OUTPUT jack).
I'm not an expert, but it looks like in your diagram, you're grounding one output jack wire and the tone pot middle terminal, both, to the tone pot chassis.
According to the SD diagram, one of the wires from the output jack should go to the middle terminal of the tone pot, and the other output jack wire has to go to ground.
Good luck. | That's what it looks like to me, as well. Just undo all of the wiring and start from scratch, using the Seymour Duncan diagram. You should be good after that.
P.S. Try to leave some of the coating on the wires. It looks like you were trying really hard to melt all of it.   | 
01-08-2009, 10:28 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | No offense, but your soldering skills really need some work.
You may have melted the plastic part in the pot...
Does it still turn ok? | 
01-09-2009, 08:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Saratoga, CA | | | Yeah I know I suck at soldering. The pot still turns ok though, but when heated up I noticed that it turned really easy, waaay too easy. IDK if that might indicate failure.
I checked it and even though its bad there arent shortcuts.
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01-09-2009, 08:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Canada | | | You have to have a large very hot Soldering gun to do that and it has to be done quick so you don't cook your parts...it might look like it worked but it will just pop off if you give them a pull.
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01-09-2009, 01:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central, PA | | I can tell you that you're solder joints look cold.
Let your iron heat up a bit first. 7 minutes for 35watt, 10 minutes for anything less than 30 watts.
Do things in order, furthest from the iron to closest.
Before you try to attach anything to anything else, make sure that you've 'tinned' each piece first. This isn't optional if you are using a pencil type iron or anything <=30watts.
Most importantly, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4
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01-09-2009, 02:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Canada | | | He most likely has a small pen iron that is no good...doesn't matter how long he lets it heat up. the bottom of a pot is a large surface.
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01-09-2009, 03:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central, PA | | | I've done plenty of pot work with a 25 watt pencil.
You just have to let it get to temp, use a tip big enough to hold enough heat, and let it recover between joints.
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01-09-2009, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Canada | | Quote: |
You just have to let it get to temp, use a tip big enough to hold enough heat
| there is another point...does he have a pen with different tips?
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01-10-2009, 01:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Saratoga, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba Ghanoosh (BTW, it's an OUTPUT jack).
I'm not an expert, but it looks like in your diagram, you're grounding one output jack wire and the tone pot middle terminal, both, to the tone pot chassis.
According to the SD diagram, one of the wires from the output jack should go to the middle terminal of the tone pot, and the other output jack wire has to go to ground.
Good luck. | You win, I didn't see this post last time around and now I fixed it. I do indeed have the worst soldering iron in the world($7 from Home Depot) and the worst technique, but the internet helped me with that. It didn't take long to figure out what to do and how to do it this time. Thanks all.
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01-10-2009, 07:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Canada | | Clean it up and show us what you did after the fact 
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