whick wireless system in 470-790mhz?

[torkelboy]

I'm going to The US this fall. And since musicgear is alot cheaper there than in Sweden i'm planning on bying a wireless system for my bass!

The X2 uses the 900band whick is used by the mobile networks here, so it is illegal and probably would'nt work well.




Now, what are your recommendations!

/Erik

[torkelboy]

Anyone have any suggestions?
I don't want to end up in a U.S musicstore getting tricked by some ignorant seller who want's to get rid of the stuff that has sold the least!

/Erik

[logicman69]

I just got the Shure SLX14 System. It's UHF Frequency agile from 518.000 MHZ to 542.000 MHZ. It works great and has a nice little battery life indicator on the front of the transmitter so you can see if your battery is about to die. Price in the US is about $560.
If you are arround the Rhode Island area, stop by the store and I'll give you a demo. I always have my rig on me.

[basadam]

On Line6 forum there is a guy from UK who claims to be using X2 without problems.
http://line6.com/support/thread.jspa...33579&tstart=0

[torkelboy]

Originally Posted by basadam

On Line6 forum there is a guy from UK who claims to be using X2 without problems.
http://line6.com/support/thread.jspa...33579&tstart=0

I read it! but i don't know if i'm willing to take the chance! it's like i'll be able to return it!

[treebranch13]

check the WMS40PRO. i use it and love it.

[torkelboy]

Originally Posted by treebranch13

check the WMS40PRO. i use it and love it.

Looks nice! alas, it's the wrong freq span!

[torkelboy]

I really need your advice on this!!!

[logicman69]

I'll say it again..

Shure SLX Wireless...
Frequency Range from 518.000MHZ to 542.000MHZ
Good system designed for touring.

[torkelboy]

Originally Posted by logicman69

I'll say it again..

Shure SLX Wireless...
Frequency Range from 518.000MHZ to 542.000MHZ
Good system designed for touring.

It looks very interesting! is 560$ the retail price? is easy to get your hand's on?

in sweden this system cost's about 1300$

My only concern is if it will handle my tuning, we tune one half step down, exept for E which is (C.).

Is it digital or analog?

/erik

[logicman69]

Originally Posted by torkelboy

It looks very interesting! is 560$ the retail price? is easy to get your hand's on?

in sweden this system cost's about 1300$

My only concern is if it will handle my tuning, we tune one half step down, exept for E which is (C.).

Is it digital or analog?

/erik

$560 is the normal discount price (list is $760.00). They are usually avalible (I'll keep one in stock here at the shop), though I would probibly guess that most Mom and Pop's won't have them in stock.
As far as tuning, it shouldn't be a problem. One of my friends uses one with a 5 string Jazz (tuned down a 1/2 step) and he never had any problems.

I believe it is analog, though I could be wrong.

[torkelboy]

Originally Posted by logicman69

$560 is the normal discount price (list is $760.00). They are usually avalible (I'll keep one in stock here at the shop), though I would probibly guess that most Mom and Pop's won't have them in stock.
As far as tuning, it shouldn't be a problem. One of my friends uses one with a 5 string Jazz (tuned down a 1/2 step) and he never had any problems.

I believe it is analog, though I could be wrong.

sounds promising regarding the tuning issue.

If i have understood it correctly, a digital system is better than an analog one?!

Someone who knows EVERYTHING should enter this thread and tell me exactly what to choose and why!

does anybody know for fact that the shure SLX system is analog?

[logicman69]

Originally Posted by torkelboy

sounds promising regarding the tuning issue.

If i have understood it correctly, a digital system is better than an analog one?!

Someone who knows EVERYTHING should enter this thread and tell me exactly what to choose and why!

does anybody know for fact that the shure SLX system is analog?

I called Shure and they said that all their systems are analog. Some of their top of the line systems are controled digitally (via laptop), but they all transmit in analog.

Is analog better than digital? I really couldn't tell you. I tried the SLX and the X2 XDR Rackmount side by side (it helps working in a music store with time to kill ) and I didn't hear any difference. I did hear a difference in the mid level X system (the XDS-Plus) though, it seemed to cut out at about 50ft.
Just for giggles I plugged a Peavey Cirrus 5 String into both units (after you were asking about the frequency reponce) just to be sure, and both performed well with the low "B"

I chose the Shure system for my rack for 2 reasons. 1) Shure is (IMO) a more trusted name in wireless. The X2 Digital stuff has yet to be road tested (in my eyes at least.. we just picked up the line so I usually wait to see how many come back for repair). and 2) Since both units have the output mounted on the BACK of the recievers , the Shure, being a half-rack system, was easy to modify to get a cable out to the front (I ended up drilling a hole in the black half of the rack, then snaking a cable through to plug into my preamp).

Good luck. If you need to have some super-technical questions about wireless answered, you can give the guys at Shure a call. Their number is 1-800-516-2525.

[Robybass]

I use the Shure ULX series and is really good. Road wordy and everytime you move the unit across town or state line it will scan for an open chanel/frecuency with no interference. It will handle any tunning you can trow at it. Here are the specifications:
RF Carrier Frequency Range
554.000 to 865.000 MHz (Available frequencies depend on the applicable regulations in the country where the system is used).
Refer to the frequency supplement supplied with the system.
Effective Range
100 m (300 ft.) under optimal conditions
NOTE: Actual working range depends on RF signal absorption, reflection, and interference
Audio Frequency Response
25 to 15,000 Hz, ±2 dB

Good luck.
Robert

[torkelboy]

GREAT ANSWERS! Thank you all!


I'm ready to buy!!



Just for the hell of it, apart from the slx, what are your recommendations in above mentioned freq range.

Hopefully you'll tell me that there is no competition, would make my life easy.

[jambassist]

If you look over in the miscellaneous section, there's a thread there about a digital wireless being developed specifically for the European market. I'm not sure if it's out yet, but it looks promising.

That Shure makes good stuff can't possibly be argued, but there's a reason the original X-Wire gear was so in demand and commanded a high price on the used market. If you look at analog and digital specs side by side, you'll see the differences. I have the XDS plus and couldn't be happier with it. I can't get it to drop out walking all through my house and into the basement. However, any good wireless will be able to accomplish that. One of the nice things about digital is it's plug and play. Analog wireless is almost like setting up a bass head: There's lots of settings to mess with till you get it sounding the way you want.

That being said, Logicman69 is correct about touring bands. The standard is Shure, at least for now. However, keep in mind that the units touring bands are using are way more powerful and sophisticated then the average gigging musician uses and cost thousands of dollars more. All I can say is try them both and see which one you like more. If it's digital, wait for the European version to become available.

[torkelboy]

Originally Posted by jambassist

If you look over in the miscellaneous section, there's a thread there about a digital wireless being developed specifically for the European market. I'm not sure if it's out yet, but it looks promising.

I'll look into that. Allthough, Line6 will release x2 in europe, according to what they say, it's just an issue with what freq's use, but as i've written further down, the price here is more than dubble when it's comes to almost any music related gear!


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That being said, Logicman69 is correct about touring bands. The standard is Shure, at least for now. However, keep in mind that the units touring bands are using are way more powerful and sophisticated then the average gigging musician uses and cost thousands of dollars more. All I can say is try them both and see which one you like more. If it's digital, wait for the European version to become available.

In Sweden the SLX14 costs 1300$(8000sek), that's more than dubble. I will buy some wireless system when i am in the states, even if i know that something great will become available and legal in Sweden shortly.

[LowDown Hal]

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[logicman69]

Originally Posted by torkelboy

Just for the hell of it, apart from the slx, what are your recommendations in above mentioned freq range.

Hopefully you'll tell me that there is no competition, would make my life easy.

I know sennheiser makes some good wireless, but I have almost 0 experience with them. Anyone else care to chime in?

[torkelboy]

To end this thread(or perhaps restart it).

Yesterday i bought the shure pgx14 wireless!

I talked to guys at different guitar centers and other local stores across usa and all of them told me that the only difference regarding performance between the slx and the pgx would be how many systems you could use simultainiously, soundquality and reliability would be the same. I tried it out, at least my ears could not tell any difference from using a cable.

I saved about 350$ on buying it in usa and hopefully i will be satysfied, if not i will have no problem selling it for 500$ in sweden.

It seems to be a popular system and hopefully it will handle my 130mm thick C string.

Thought´s?
Which wireless would pick up to 450$ exept for the x2?

/erik