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Old 05-22-2008, 05:52 PM
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HT 112 - New Speaker ?

Greetings. I am thinking about a New speaker .....thought I should maybe seek some advice first.
I have 2 Bergantino HT 112 8 ohm Cabs. one with the tweeter removed.
I thought I might change to a 4 ohm neodyn. speaker.
My goals are......to get more watts out of my Clarus 1 series II
from 120 to 200. and also to lessen the weight of the cabinet.
I only want to change one cabinet ...not sure if I need the tweeter or not ......
Any advice or personal experience in regards to this ...will be appreciated.thanks
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:16 PM
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You might try one of the EA Wizzy 12 cabs.... 4ohms and quite nice for DB... lightweight, mid voiced (which is usually good for DB), and they should handle your Clarus power at 4ohms with no problem.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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You might try one of the EA Wizzy 12 cabs.... 4ohms and quite nice for DB... lightweight, mid voiced (which is usually good for DB), and they should handle your Clarus power at 4ohms with no problem.
+1 for some very good advice. I'll add that the Wizzy 12 or Wizzy M-Line are both significantly more sensitive than the Berg HT-112, which means they need less power to produce a given sound pressure level (SPL). A 3 dB increase in speaker sensitivity is equivalent to doubling your amplifier power.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:26 PM
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Thanks for the input........
On reading my thread it seems maybe I was not quite clear.
I want to change the speaker ......not the cabinet
thanx again
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:29 PM
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Change the cab and be done with it...EA all the way, My fav is the Wizzy 10 at 16 1/2 LBS.... Wake up and smell the Coffee....
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:39 PM
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I think you may have missed the point of the advice.

The Wizzy cabs are known to work well for DB use, while changing drivers in your Berg cab is an experiment, which may or may not work. My experience has been that you can try different drivers (which can quickly get expensive) and still not come up with something as good as a well-engineered design like a Wizzy.

Also you stated one of your goals is to get more watts out of your amp. The EA Wizzy 12 is 3 dB more sensitive than say an Eminence 2512 Deltalite II neo replacement driver (103 dB SPL vs 99.9). As stated previously, that is equivalent to doubling your amplifier power. That along with the Wizzy being a 4-ohm cab effectively makes a Series II Clarus a much more formidable amp.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:14 PM
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Thanks for the input.
Again. I am not interested in a new Cab.......
I am looking for a speaker replacement, neo 12 " 4 ohms.
That is similar in specs to the current speaker which is : 300 watts rms , sensitivity 97db anechoic: 2.83v/1m.......
So would this be accurate ....the higher the sensitivity the more power/ volume ??
would changing to a 4 ohm speaker affect the tweeter ??
or would that need some upgrading ?
If this is something that can not be done.. I will just stick with the Cab as is . Thanx again .
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:11 AM
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other possibilities

I don't have any experience with a neo 12" in that cab, but I did use an Aguilar GS series 12" speaker in my Ht112 for a while. Not bad at all. At leas 5-7 Lbs lighter than the Berg driver and more sensitive (louder) than the Berg, too. Not a 4ohm driver, but steps in the same direction. Both drivers appear to be manufactured by Eminence- they have identical baskets and cones.
Another thing to consider would be a new Bergantino "AE" driver which would be neo, but probably only available in 8ohms. I'd email Jim Bergantino and ask his opinion.
Good luck!
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:08 AM
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I have left a message with Mr. Bergantino.
I am thinking that may be the way to go.
Maybe also this speaker that robgrow mentioned.
it has a higher sensitivity at 99.9 db spl and is neo , 8 ohms
DELTA LITE II 2512 http://www.usspeaker.com/homepage.htm

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Old 05-24-2008, 08:57 AM
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also check out partsexpress.com for drivers. (speakers)

they are a good seller.
pro audio driver 12"
http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ctGroup_ID=581
bass guitar 12"
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...TOKEN=11617567
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