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11-14-2012, 02:37 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: New Joisey Shore | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzdogg  Couldn't find it. 
Got a link?  | BYOC ParaEQ PDF format manual
If you search on ebay you'll find a shop that seems to consistently sells assembled versions for around $165. |
11-15-2012, 04:44 PM
|  | Less barking, more wagging! | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Thanks! |
11-19-2012, 01:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Carlsen May I suggest you dump the Realist and try a Full Circle.... Then report back to us.... | Okay- here is my first report back.
So I added the Full Circle (took it off my other bass) and left the Realist in place (sorry- I ignored the suggestion to dump it). I tried A/B ing them at home (much lower volume than at a gig) but the Full Circle tone was significantly different than Realist- the FC was much brighter in an inaccurate way than the Realist; where the eponymous Realist was extremely accurate. I was surprised how different the PU's sounded- maybe a problem in the installation?
Meanwhile, I will bring the small mixer I have to my gig tomorrow night and see if that persists. I will also try blending the signals to see what impact on tone and volume.
I should note that I added an F-Deck HPF series 3 before my amp (Genz-Benz Shuttle 3.0), and that has helped significantly, but I still feel the frequencies near open G to be too hot, leading me to speculate that a one band parametric could even things out. (I tested the PU's without the HPF).
Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. |
11-19-2012, 02:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tewksbury,Mass. | | | Thanks for checking back in. I would say that the brighter sound of the FC might be better in a gigging situation. A lot has to do w. how loud you need to be, drummers, room acoustics, etc. I know I can warm up a bright sounding pickup w. my amp's EQ, but a muddy sounding pickup is tough to get clarity...
Best of luck on the gig.... |
11-19-2012, 04:15 PM
|  | 鉄人マイケル | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon | | | Don't forget that you can change the sound of the FC by turning it within a 90-degree range (be careful with the wire).
Also make sure that the face of the wheel is absolutely flush with the bridge or bridge foot (depending on installation method). |
11-19-2012, 08:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Eisenman
Also make sure that the face of the wheel is absolutely flush with the bridge or bridge foot (depending on installation method).
| Hi Michael-
Sorry but I am not quite sure what that means. Could clarify for me? I am not sure what you mean by face of the wheel being flush with the bridge or bridge foot.
(I did try to 90 degree rotation, but that did not seem to help).
Thank you. |
11-20-2012, 08:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen | | | There is one side on the full circle which is (more) sensitive because the pizoo crystals sit directly underneath. This side will be in contact with the bridge and this part of the bridge must be flat to make good and evenly distrbuted contact with the full circle. If not it needs to be corrected.
Personally I would say that a 45 degree sweep of the full circle angle gives (more or less) all the different sounds you can get out of the full circle, specially if you find unwanted resonances. Inside the full circle there are four crystals in the corner of a square, so the sound changes depending on the bridge foot corner to piezo crystal relation.
You might get some sounds you cannot get with the 45 (or 90) degree sweep if you turn it more, but mostly resulting from an uneven bridge contact area, I assume.
A 90 degree rotation will give the same sound as before, because the piezo crystal to bridge foot corners relation will be the same. Try to start with five or ten degree steps up to 45 degree and if you want further to 90 degree, but I think you will go back to the first sound then. |
11-20-2012, 08:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Olivette, Missouri | | | Apples and Oranges
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Originally Posted by rasbass Okay- here is my first report back.
So I added the Full Circle (took it off my other bass) and left the Realist in place (sorry- I ignored the suggestion to dump it). I tried A/B ing them at home (much lower volume than at a gig) but the Full Circle tone was significantly different than Realist- the FC was much brighter in an inaccurate way than the Realist; where the eponymous Realist was extremely accurate. I was surprised how different the PU's sounded- maybe a problem in the installation?
I should note that I added an F-Deck HPF series 3 before my amp (Genz-Benz Shuttle 3.0), and that has helped significantly, but I still feel the frequencies near open G to be too hot, leading me to speculate that a one band parametric could even things out. (I tested the PU's without the HPF).
Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated. | Ras Bass,
In my experience, players generally gravitate to the Full Circle when they want better definition playing at higher volume levels, because it will definitely get louder. The Realist players, usually want a warmer/darker more microphone like sound, and play at lower volume levels using a mix of pizzicato and arco. Comparing the two works on some levels, but in the end they are apples and oranges. I still think that you should compare a Realist equipped bass someone else owns to your instrument, as I still, suspect there is something going on with your pickup.
Ric |
11-20-2012, 09:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate NY | | | Ah- very good. I will revisit my FC installation.
Thanks for the insightful comments. |
11-20-2012, 10:42 AM
| | 鉄人マイケル | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rasbass ...I am not quite sure what that means. Could clarify for me? I am not sure what you mean by face of the wheel being flush with the bridge or bridge foot. | I like pictures; the attached photo should help to clarify. |
11-20-2012, 12:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Eisenman I like pictures; the attached photo should help to clarify. | Ah... pic = 1,000 words
Very insightful.
That is not how mine looks... but it will soon.
Now I am impatient to hear what it should sound like.
Thanks. |
11-20-2012, 01:04 PM
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Authorized fEARful/FEARLESS/greenboy designs builder | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nashville, TN | | | The Empress looks pretty dang cool. Surprised no one has mentioned the DTAR Equinox |
11-20-2012, 01:40 PM
| | 鉄人マイケル | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rasbass Ah... pic = 1,000 words
Very insightful.
That is not how mine looks... but it will soon.
Now I am impatient to hear what it should sound like.
Thanks. | Yours might be upside down (threads up). That's okay; just another way to install it. Just make sure that the pickup face is absolutely flush with whichever part of the bridge (or bridge foot) that it contacts. |
12-01-2012, 08:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Eisenman I like pictures; the attached photo should help to clarify. | Very helpful, and now it's just right. So, I tried the A/B with both p/u's and the FC still does not reproduce as accurately as the Realist- at home, in the quiet, drum-free and horn-free room. However, I can see that at higher volumes, the greater edge of the FC could be more desirable.
I will try it at the gig Tuesday and see how it works. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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