QSC K10 arrived yesterday...

[Wild Rice Chris]

Anybody using these for DB? I bought it for flute, but...

[Pat Harris]

I've used my K10s with many different instruments and it sounds great for all of them, including Double Bass. You'll definitely want a preamp to have some tone control. It's not the greatest speaker to use as a monitor on stage, but the sound it produces out in the house is great. I've used mine as a wedge position behind me, on a pole, and even two K10s stacked vertically depending on the playing situation.

[Ric Vice]

Originally Posted by Pat Harris

I've used my K10s with many different instruments and it sounds great for all of them, including Double Bass. You'll definitely want a preamp to have some tone control. It's not the greatest speaker to use as a monitor on stage, but the sound it produces out in the house is great. I've used mine as a wedge position behind me, on a pole, and even two K10s stacked vertically depending on the playing situation.

+1
I have the baby brother of your K10. It definitely needs a pre amp, so I put my Headway EDB-1 back into service and it's a very portable and powerful little rig. For my needs, I have the K8's EQ settings for Low Frequency on "Normal" and the High Frequency set on "Flat". This seems to work best.
the K8's wider dispersion pattern makes a little more prone to feeding back.

Ric

[Wild Rice Chris]

Sounds promising. Now for a free hour to try it out...

[Wild Rice Chris]

I've used it on a few gigs now, both double bass and electric bass in addition to flute.

Damn!

Full Circle-fdeck-K10 sounds more like my bass than a mic to the PA at low to medium volumes! I have enough tone shaping between the vocal boost setting and the HPF-Pre to satisfy my needs, although I'm sure others could want more.

I brought an eq and a few mics to the gigs and had a chance to try things a few ways. The DB gig was a room I've played many times since 2005, low volume, acoustic guitar, banjo, and a singer out two. Normally I use a nice condenser mic into the PA and am very happy. This gave me a more consistent sound throughout the room.

I bought a K10 for myself. Sounds quite good with guitars as well, using the fdeck as preamp/low-end control.

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by Wild Rice Chris

I've used it on a few gigs now, both double bass and electric bass in addition to flute.

Damn!

Full Circle-fdeck-K10 sounds more like my bass than a mic to the PA at low to medium volumes!

Subscribed. I've been hoping to do a review of the K10 and K12 for some time now. Now I'm moving that further up my wish list.

[Wild Rice Chris]

Yeah, really not quite what I expected from it. My wife bought it to amplify her flute for our rock gigs, but I am loving this thing and needed my own. Plus, now we have a pair as a small PA.

For DB, I'm keeping the LF Mode on "Norm" and using the Vocal Boost in some rooms. I pull out a good amount of low end with the HPF-Pre, and use the mic/line gain boost to get enough oomph.

With no preamp, it is rather dark and uninspiring.

[rake]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

Subscribed. I've been hoping to do a review of the K10 and K12 for some time now. Now I'm moving that further up my wish list.

I'd recommend adding the Yamaha DXR12 12" to your audition. I tried them side by side (with my old Rev Solo>Fishman pre setup) and while both were great, the Yamaha sounded much more musical to my ears - more even overall.

[Ric Vice]

Originally Posted by Chris Fitzgerald

Subscribed. I've been hoping to do a review of the K10 and K12 for some time now. Now I'm moving that further up my wish list.

I've had a QSC K8 for several months now. For most moderately loud gigs, it works quite well. If I needed something for larger venues, like auditoriums and concerts, the K10 would be a my choice. In reading the spec sheets, all three of the QSC's use the same power amp module, so the difference between them is the size of the enclosure, driver and of course, their frequency response. Since the K10 and K12 have narrower dispersion patterns, the are less prone feed back. Both the K10, and K12 have lower bass response. Personally, for anything but concert stages, and outdoor performances the K8 works fine for me. That may not be the case for other players. The bass response is better in the K10 and K12, but the trade off is weight, so you have to decide what your priorities are. It's really nice to have a 27 lb. cabinet, and use either the Ehrlund Pre , or a Headway EDB-1 as the pre amp. This makes for a very compact lightweight system.

Ric

[Monte]

I've been using the K10 for awhile now and really think the world of it.

For lower volume trio gigs I go with my Heil PR40 mic into my little Mackie 2 channel mixer, leaving the other channel for the keyboard player unless there is a piano.

Recently I encountered a venue that just ATE bass. No matter how loud I turned up I couldn't hear $h1t. A small stage with big thick curtains on Beale street and a loud crowd.

After a couple of nights of frustration I dug out a pickup....haven't used one in close to 5 years! I dug out my old Schertler Stat B (single element) and put it in one channel of the Mackie and the Heil in the other. Worked so well I put it to use with a loud big band in a big hall the other night. The QSC10 can definitely put out some sound.

[Frits]

How would these compare to the QSC K8 or K10? Just wondering... I'm thinking of using a Vintage Revolution preamp + Realist + DPA4099B mic. Could work just fine.

[JeffKissell]

So I just received a K10 to use with the troll ribbon mic and so far it is very promising. I ran the speaker eq flat and with the sub/hp engaged both up on a stand and on the floor, monitor style. There seems to be plenty of bass response in either place with the 10 and the combination of positions and eq points seems to be plenty of control for most situations. Both placements are louder and more natural than any pick-up/preamp combo I've tried with GK MB 112 I've been using. It's a very accurate and "musical" sounding speaker with a mic.
I'll post more here and in the troll thread once I get through the next week or so. I have a nice combination of gigs and rehearsals that should put this rig to the test.
-Jeff

[Nathan Levine]

Originally Posted by JeffKissell

So I just received a K10 to use with the troll ribbon mic and so far it is very promising. I ran the speaker eq flat and with the sub/hp engaged both up on a stand and on the floor, monitor style. There seems to be plenty of bass response in either place with the 10 and the combination of positions and eq points seems to be plenty of control for most situations. Both placements are louder and more natural than any pick-up/preamp combo I've tried with GK MB 112 I've been using. It's a very accurate and "musical" sounding speaker with a mic.
I'll post more here and in the troll thread once I get through the next week or so. I have a nice combination of gigs and rehearsals that should put this rig to the test.
-Jeff

Are you using the Fethed between the Troll and the K10?

[JeffKissell]

Originally Posted by Nathan Levine

Are you using the Fethed between the Troll and the K10?

Not so far, I've only used the Troll/K10 in a rehearsal "try it out" type scenario.
I have used the fethead on all of my gigs with the Troll so far and running straight to the FOH and it works really well.
I did use the Fethead to boost an SM58 signal through channel 2 on the K10 for a vocalist though. It was very balanced with another 58 in channel 1 on the mic setting. This is a sweet speaker!!
-J

[jkdahlman]

Hi all, I've been using a K12 for about 2 years. Most of my gigs are EB or EUB in all sizes of rooms. It's fantastic with a Radial Tonebone in front. For my Ergo 8, I add a modded ART MP to handle the impedance matching. I haven't taken a regular bass amp out since I got this thing. Once I finish rebuilding a 1940 Kay S-51 I just got, I'll be running that into it as well. Although a K10 is on my list of purchases for this year.

[JeffKissell]

Originally Posted by JeffKissell

Not so far, I've only used the Troll/K10 in a rehearsal "try it out" type scenario...
-J

Originally Posted by Nathan Levine

Are you using the Fethed between the Troll and the K10?

I used this rig in a loud restaurant on Saturday... The K10 up on a pole, ear high, and the Troll running straight into the mic channel (1). I sent the direct pass through to the FOH and it was great! I had control of the volume on the speaker and the other musicians could still have bass in the monitors. This was with a drummer. I'm very happy with this set-up for louder PA supported gigs. I haven't used the K10 by itself yet on a gig.

Nathan, I'm not sure what the rating is on the K10 mic pre but when I ran the Fethead into the other channel it boosted a 58 to equal levels. The sweet thing about using the K10 OR the Fethead is that the house gets the approximately the same level. I think the Fethead is a better preamp, though... at least it sounds better to me.
-J

[jannejava]

Originally Posted by rake

I'd recommend adding the Yamaha DXR12 12" to your audition. I tried them side by side (with my old Rev Solo>Fishman pre setup) and while both were great, the Yamaha sounded much more musical to my ears - more even overall.

Could you please describe the difference more? The local music store has Yamaha DXRs in store. Tried the DXR8 but it was to low powered. Never tried the 12.

[Whisper]

IME, the K10 totally gets lost in the mix no matter how you EQ it. But, obviously it works for some people. Personally, I greatly prefer the sound of my MarkBass 112 combo.

[JeffKissell]

Originally Posted by Whisper

IME, the K10 totally gets lost in the mix no matter how you EQ it. But, obviously it works for some people. Personally, I greatly prefer the sound of my MarkBass 112 combo.

I agree but I have to say that I actually hear the bass as sitting differently in the mix for the projects I'm involved in. Being a little buried is exactly how it should sound to me... YMMV, FWIW, etc.

Often what works for one person but not another with a particular rig is what they expect to hear in the way the bass is defined in the mix.

-Jeff

[Ric Vice]

Originally Posted by Whisper

IME, the K10 totally gets lost in the mix no matter how you EQ it. But, obviously it works for some people. Personally, I greatly prefer the sound of my MarkBass 112 combo.

Whisper,
In most of the situations I encounter the QSC K8 in combination with the Headway EDB-1 cuts right through as a backline amp.


Ric