Amplitube Ampeg SVX

dirtgroove · #1 06-07-2006, 04:06 AM

Anyone?
Surely someone here has to know something about this. I've been searching for a review for the past week. I know, I know- experience tells me that I should kow by now than to put my faith in any kind of amp modelling, but.... this one looks good.
Can anyone give me any info on it besides the actual website? .....this is worse than three days before Christmas at the age of 6.

Danimal00 · #2 06-07-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtgroove

Anyone?
Surely someone here has to know something about this. I've been searching for a review for the past week. I know, I know- experience tells me that I should kow by now than to put my faith in any kind of amp modelling, but.... this one looks good.
Can anyone give me any info on it besides the actual website? .....this is worse than three days before Christmas at the age of 6.

I have heard a beta version during a demo here, and it sounded quite good. From what I understand, Ampeg was heavily involved in the development of the actual product, and ultimately, how it sounds. Feel free to PM if you need any additional information.

The Funk · #3 07-08-2006, 01:26 AM

There's a link to a pretty fun video clip of it in use on this page:

http://www.ampegsvx.com/Main.php?prod-AM.php

Which is the first place I ever heard The Bhudda in action.

geoffkhan · #4 07-09-2006, 03:19 AM

Nonsense, check this baby out: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141946

seamonkey · #5 07-09-2006, 08:49 PM

There is a demo version available.
But you need an ikey even just for the demo.
It will probably find it's way into recording studio bag of tricks rather than individual bass players.

Word is on the kvraudio forums that it sounds just like the real thing - all of them.

IK has a patent on "DSM". This may be the edge over the free modelers.

David Vector · #6 07-10-2006, 04:54 PM

I've been watching this with some interest myself. I don't plan on having any speaker cabs onstage for live shows - I want to run everything direct and keep the live sound as tight and focused as possible (a sound man's dream, LOL). Something like this running on a laptop would be a fairly slick (and very portable) setup. I've been going entirely direct for recording and using various VST plugins for a while now, but having your entire bass sound generated within a single piece of software with easy, one-step switching would be a great tool for going "virtual" in a live setting. It's either that or a Bass POD (or equivalent) - the jury's still out.

Danimal00 · #7 07-10-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by David Vector

I've been watching this with some interest myself. I don't plan on having any speaker cabs onstage for live shows - I want to run everything direct and keep the live sound as tight and focused as possible (a sound man's dream, LOL). Something like this running on a laptop would be a fairly slick (and very portable) setup. I've been going entirely direct for recording and using various VST plugins for a while now, but having your entire bass sound generated within a single piece of software with easy, one-step switching would be a great tool for going "virtual" in a live setting. It's either that or a Bass POD (or equivalent) - the jury's still out.

Hi David,

You probably already know this, but in case you don't, be aware that AmpegSVX does require a host and does not run stand alone. If you have a host for it and like the Ampeg sound, this is spot on.

Thanks,
Dan

seamonkey · #8 07-10-2006, 08:22 PM

I read somewhere that IK is working on a standalone patch.

In any case, I bet Chainer, or SAVIHost, or any very lightweight host will work.

I too am working on using VST live.

It's great that a company like IK payed attention to bass players. In many ways, we're the last to jump on the technology wagon.

David Vector · #9 07-10-2006, 08:59 PM

Thanks for the tip, Dan - I didn't know SVX was (at least for now) being released as a plugin version only.

Yep, something like Chainer would probably be a good solution for a host, wouldn't it? More practical than recording software for something like this, as well as making it easy to incorporate other plugins in the chain at the same time and still be able to switch in one step.

geoffkhan · #10 07-11-2006, 02:30 AM

Doesn't Waves have an upcoming (or already released?) modeling plugin, which simulates real mics on real amps (sorta like GuitarRig does), from real-world collected data from some bigshot studio?

All I remember from seeing the videos of a presentation with it, was that it sounded WAY better than Amplitube or GuitarRig. GuitarRig has a sort of plastic-y sound to it anyway... :P

David Vector · #11 07-25-2006, 08:34 AM

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Nonsense, check this baby out: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141946

Had to revisit this post for a sec, since I went ahead and downloaded Freeamp2 out of curiosity. It's a lot better than I expected it to be. I think I actually like some of the tones it offers better than Amplitube.

Mind you, I haven't done much with it yet in regards to getting bass sounds per se. I did track some unison "guitar" lines with it recently - I had my fretless Jazz Bass in my hands at the time, so just for kicks, I tracked the "guitar" lines on bass playing an octave up. Did two passes of each line, panned the two upper-octave parts left and right, and started trying different Freeamp distortion presets on the panned upper lines. Very nice results.

Does Freeamp sound anything close to the amp/cab combinations it attempts to emulate? I have no idea - I've never owned them. But the included presets offer so many different tonal colors that it's a very cool tool for creating textural contrasts between different lines and different sections of a song. Another useful tool added to the "toy box."

vanselus · #12 08-17-2006, 10:49 PM

I reviewed the SVX in the current issue of Bass Guitar Magazine... very good sounding, surprisingly so for a plugin.

You can hear it here: http://www.basstasters.com/preamps/ampegsvx.htm

lillitnn92 · #13 08-18-2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by David Vector

Had to revisit this post for a sec, since I went ahead and downloaded Freeamp2 out of curiosity.

sweet! like the GUI upgrade. i already had FreeAmpSE before. this looks good, no time to play tonight though, need sleep.

geoffkhan · #14 08-18-2006, 11:36 AM

Yeah, I had FreeAmpSE, too. The new version is a lot better.

Pretty amazing what you can do with SynthEdit, right?

dirtgroove · #15 12-05-2006, 08:17 PM

Got it.
Lords almighty- it sounds a million times better than I can manage with amps and microphones!!!! I love those people at H20...

The B-15 model oozes the sounds of old warm rubes. The SVT4-Pro is immense. it also has amazing synth sounds that track astoundingly well, double stops, bends slides.... Must go, must record my oddysey.

marcray · #16 12-05-2006, 08:30 PM

looking forward to trying it... I'm a house player and the engineers and I have been using guitar rig 2... maybe not too popular around these parts but it takes set-up time away, full recall, keep all my sounds and settings that I like in a folder etc etc...

Amplitube 2 I believe is coming next week, I'll check that out... don't know if this SVX is part of that but if not I'm gonna have to find a way to get it...

dirtgroove · #17 12-05-2006, 09:37 PM

It blows guitarig2 out of the water for the simple fact that it has more and better modelled amps. It isn't so hard on your CPU either. (I can't deny preferring guitarig2's effects). For Home recording this programme is truly phenomenal.

Amplitube2 is good, for guitars

- the SVX version is not part of it, but an identical programme designed for bassists.

marcray · #18 12-05-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtgroove

It blows guitarig2 out of the water for the simple fact that it has more and better modelled amps. It isn't so hard on your CPU either. (I can't deny preferring guitarig2's effects). For Home recording this programme is truly phenomenal.

Amplitube2 is good, for guitars

- the SVX version is not part of it, but an identical programme designed for bassists.

Yeah I looked into it... I have to break the piggy bank I think, it seems worth messing around with... though usually I can find something I need in the guitar players sounds...

Richard Lindsey · #19 12-06-2006, 08:30 AM

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but IIRC it only does Ampeg amps, right? To me that would seem to limit its appeal in a way that surprises me a little. I'm not an IK basher--I own, use, and like both SampleTank and Amplitude--but it's hard for me to figure out why they didn't take as broad an approach to bass amp modeling as they did to guitar amp modeling. I mean, they didn't restrict Amplitude to say, only Fender amps, so why restrict the bass equivalent to only Ampeg amps? I guess it would work for folks who only like Ampeg sounds, but personally I'd never pay that money for it--I wouldn't feel I was getting enough for my $$$.

To me, thinking that a collection of Ampeg amps is anything like a complete take on bass amp modeling is like thinking that a collection of Ford cars and trucks is a complete take on automobiles. That's not a knock on either Ampeg or Ford; but for a tool of this type, I'd no more want to be constrained to play only Ampegs than I would want to be constrained to drive only Fords in real life. Just my $0.02.

dirtgroove · #20 12-07-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by marcray

Yeah I looked into it... I have to break the piggy bank I think, it seems worth messing around with... though usually I can find something I need in the guitar players sounds...

I'm not recommending that anyone break the law here, depending on where you live, but it's available fro free on a multitude of torrent sites.