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01-21-2007, 09:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philadelphia | | | A-Designs REDDI vs. Summit TD-100....or?
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Ok, so hear's the deal. My Fender TPB-1 sounds TERRIBLE in the studio (D.I.) to me. It's pretty sterile, boxy, and bottomless sounding. No amount of it's EQ section helped (not a fan of the tone stack  ). Live, the thing sounds great and is a good D.I. to the FOH. I'm playing it into an IP112 (soon to be IP/EX stack). So I'm thinking the best route is to get a real D.I. to use in the studio. After listening to basstasters, the REDDI is my favorite sound (besides the STT-1, but i can't justify getting that bad boy.). The TD-100 seems a tad bright sounding, but it's also not the same bass being use in the clip (34" scale Sadowsky Vs. 35" scale Valenti).
I'm going for that thick, fat, weighty (tubey?) tone that i have live. I know i can only get so close to this without micing the cab, but that's just not an option with the type of people I'm working with.
So, Should I go with the REDDI, or the TD-100?
Think along with me then give me your opinion: REDDI: Pros:
1) kick@$$ tone
2)simple Cons:
1)price
2)Yet another piece of gear to carry and plug in
3)Can't be racked
4)needs a y cable or something to be used in conjunction with my amp set-up. TD-100 Pros:
1)price
2)can replace the TPB-1 completely
3)no special cabling needed
4)TLA-50 compressor can easily be added into rack next to it.
5)impedance control to shape tone slightly Cons:
1)not sure of tone
2)needs 60 buck attachment to be racked
Have i missed anything? Opinions wanted big time! 
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01-21-2007, 10:08 PM
|  | prefers electric miles davis | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | Funny, i was just looking at both of these today and comparing tones on Basstasters and the like. Personally, i think the REDDI sounds better, plus the new ones have the thru jack so you won't need that Y adapter (i don't think). The REDDI seems like that Thick Tubey type tone you're going for. The Summit seems more like a Demeter Hi-Fi Tube Tone.
Good luck.
PS. I'm looking into the Ridge Farm Industries Gas Cooker too. But it's pretty pricey too. http://www.ridgefarmstudio.com/rfinew/cprod.htm | 
01-21-2007, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist Funny, i was just looking at both of these today and comparing tones on Basstasters and the like. Personally, i think the REDDI sounds better, plus the new ones have the thru jack so you won't need that Y adapter (i don't think). The REDDI seems like that Thick Tubey type tone you're going for. The Summit seems more like a Demeter Hi-Fi Tube Tone.
Good luck.
PS. I'm looking into the Ridge Farm Industries Gas Cooker too. But it's pretty pricey too. http://www.ridgefarmstudio.com/rfinew/cprod.htm | Yea TaySte2000 turned me on to the gas cooker as well. The tone that Paul Turner gets on those Aol video recordings with Jamiroquai with that thing is SICK. Really makes me consider it...but man, that price!! The cheapest i've seen is 1350...paul also uses nordstrand pick-ups, which i also use (singles in my J, DCs in my upcoming 6)...so it makes think that combo will result in the tone i'm shooting for.
I forgot about that through jack. Now i see i can use that weird .25"/XLR input, the thru into the Berg, and the XLR out to the board. Very interesting... 
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01-21-2007, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan Yea TaySte2000 turned me on to the gas cooker as well. The tone that Paul Turner gets on those Aol video recordings with Jamiroquai with that thing is SICK. Really makes me consider it...but man, that price!! The cheapest i've seen is 1350...paul also uses nordstrand pick-ups, which i also use (singles in my J, DCs in my upcoming 6)...so it makes think that combo will result in the tone i'm shooting for.
I forgot about that through jack. Now i see i can use that weird .25"/XLR input, the thru into the Berg, and the XLR out to the board. Very interesting...  | Turner's tone is exactly the reason I'm looking into one. Yeah the new REDDI's with the Thru jack are MONEY. I'm so glad they added that option. Whichever one you pick let me know, I'll be interested to hear how you like it. Good luck. | 
01-22-2007, 06:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philadelphia | | Anyone else? Maybe i should copy this into the amp forum! lol. 
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01-23-2007, 12:07 PM
| | Registered User Design: EA Amps | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boulder, CO | | You might want to give this a couple months - right now I'm working on a Tube DI Shootout that includes both boxes you're interested in and many more. I'll be putting all the clips on basstasters and the complete writeup will appear in Bass Guitar Magazine as well. Pretty much everything will be represented... I can't tell you how cool it is to come home and see 16 of the world's greatest tube DI's sitting in your music room. 
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01-23-2007, 12:28 PM
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01-23-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan | Unfortunately, no. I called and emailed Ridge Farm a few times but they never responded. Pretty much every other tube DI from $60 to $2100 is in though!
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01-23-2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vanselus Unfortunately, no. I called and emailed Ridge Farm a few times but they never responded. Pretty much every other tube DI from $60 to $2100 is in though! | Darn. But oh well, it's still gonna be an awesome comparison! 
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01-23-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan Darn. But oh well, it's still gonna be an awesome comparison!  | +1
i can't wait.  | 
01-23-2007, 05:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: somewhere else | | | The reddi is worth it all day long.
The thing is thick as F&&^ and clear as anything else i have ever used.
Anytime i've had to sit in on a session i will without fail always use a Reddi.
In regards to one of your cons i beleive that it can be rack mounted...
Or was that the JDI....??????
All the basses that i have played through the Reddi really come into there own as far as shapping tone .
Shootouts aside get a reddi mate.. | 
01-23-2007, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shifter The reddi is worth it all day long.
The thing is thick as F&&^ and clear as anything else i have ever used.
Anytime i've had to sit in on a session i will without fail always use a Reddi.
In regards to one of your cons i beleive that it can be rack mounted...
Or was that the JDI....??????
All the basses that i have played through the Reddi really come into there own as far as shapping tone .
Shootouts aside get a reddi mate.. | You can rack that weirdly shaped thing? I don't see how  lol. Between you and Vanselus, i'm thinking about grabbin the REDDI...
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01-24-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan You can rack that weirdly shaped thing? I don't see how  lol. Between you and Vanselus, i'm thinking about grabbin the REDDI... | Don't think about it mate.....
GO and get one ....
You won't be sorry .... | 
01-27-2007, 12:27 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist: DR Strings, SMS, D-TAR | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boulder, CO | | | I have been using a Groove Tubes DITTO into an API 3124+ and I am loving it! I think the preamp that the DI goes into is equally important. I had tried the DITTO into a bunch of other pres, from Grace to RNP to RME and the API just adds the final touch that makes the bass big and fat without having to be loud in the mix. I will soon be building a Seventh Circle Audio Neve clone and I am very curious about how that will sound on the bass as well. The API also has a DI built in and it sounds excellent as well, but the combo is even better.
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01-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan Yea TaySte2000 turned me on to the gas cooker as well. The tone that Paul Turner gets on those Aol video recordings with Jamiroquai with that thing is SICK. Really makes me consider it...but man, that price!! The cheapest i've seen is 1350...paul also uses nordstrand pick-ups, which i also use (singles in my J, DCs in my upcoming 6)...so it makes think that combo will result in the tone i'm shooting for.
I forgot about that through jack. Now i see i can use that weird .25"/XLR input, the thru into the Berg, and the XLR out to the board. Very interesting...  | FYI
Paul Turner is the newest member of our family.
Sorry to be a name dropper but I'm very excited about Paul being on board.
I got to meet him at NAMM and what a GREAT person he is.
Regards,
Peter Montessi
A-Designs Audio www.adesignsaudio.com | 
01-27-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Montessi FYI
Paul Turner is the newest member of our family.
Sorry to be a name dropper but I'm very excited about Paul being on board.
I got to meet him at NAMM and what a GREAT person he is.
Regards,
Peter Montessi
A-Designs Audio www.adesignsaudio.com | | 
01-27-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Montessi FYI
Paul Turner is the newest member of our family.
Sorry to be a name dropper but I'm very excited about Paul being on board.
I got to meet him at NAMM and what a GREAT person he is.
Regards,
Peter Montessi
A-Designs Audio www.adesignsaudio.com | Wow. I'm getting a REDDI 
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01-27-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fretless5verfan Wow. I'm getting a REDDI  | yeah man. i thought Paul was using the Gas Cooker? I definately need to check out that A-Designs box now. Paul Turner is the Man. | 
01-27-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist yeah man. i thought Paul was using the Gas Cooker? I definately need to check out that A-Designs box now. Paul Turner is the Man. | Hi Markjazzbassist,
Please don't misunderstand or be mislead by my post!
I don't know what Paul used on that recording and all I am saying is he is now a member of the A Designs Audio family!
Geeesh, the family is growing pretty fast maybe I should start thinking about "Birth Control"
I hope that clears things up a bit?
Regards,
Peter Montessi
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