DI for Recording
Looking for some advice, feedback, etc...
I'm looking for a nice DI box that I can use for recording, and possibly also use it live to go FOH. I play passive basses, and often use tube amps live. I have been using a Countryman, but lost it on a road gig. With the countryman gone, I need to get something.
If I go for just another DI box, I will probably just re-buy a countryman (so no JDI recommendations please:smug:). But, I'm thinking about making an upgrade to something with a tube / transformer.
Recording is in a home / semi-pro studio. The engineer (our keyboard player) has lots of nice gear, but only so much, so all the "nice" pre-amps get used for drum mics, piano sounds, etc.
Summit Audio TD-100 -- seems like it would be nice for studio and stage. Nice price, nice form factor... 1/2 the price of a REDDI (new).
REDDI -- I know it's the best;), but it is expensive, and pretty big / heavy for live work.
Demeter VTDB-2B -- the fact that it doesn't have a direct out kind of worries me, especially thinking about live use.
Aguilar DB-900 -- same as the Demeter. I've heard the output doesn't play nice with some amps.
Or, just stick with the countryman? Maybe try using my Aggie TH350 as a pre for recording?
Any thoughts? Can you mod the Demeter or Aggie so that the 1/4" out is an unaffected out?
You were correct when you said the REDDI is the best. If you have the money, it's definitely a long-term investment worth making. The DI is what sends your tone to the FOH or recording console, so it's arguably the most important piece of equipment after your bass. I would even say it's more important than your amp in recording situations, or in live shows with PA support. The size and weight of the REDDI won't bother you at all after you hear what it does for your tone.
I had a REDDI and would choose that for solely DI purposes. I upgraded to a Monique pre because the DI to me was toe for toe and the added features made it much more versitile to consolidate the rest of my gear. But out of the one's listed the REDDI is worth the extra money. Just don't let anyone steal it ;)
If you like the Ampeg sound a VT bass DI is supposed to be pretty good and only around 200$.
I had a friend who used a Golden Age Pre-73 and was very impressed with the bass via D.I. sound on it.
It also has an XLR input for 1 mics. The new price is only $350.
There is also the Avalon U5.
I'm a low buck player but for over a decade I've used a BDDI for an tube emulation/DI. For recording I use the dry out so I get two tracks. I've also heard the Tonehammer is excellent as well. Like I said, not the big buck item, but for me it works well on some many levels. To address the mid scoop I had Mike Putnum add a mid control so it's more like a RBI in a box.
I had a BDDI, and didn't really care for it. Was mostly using it for color in front of an amp.
Seen a few folks out there using the Avalon U5. The Pre-73 looks kind of cool too.
I've used the REDDI, own the Demeter and used to own the Summit.
You really don't need an affected out. It's not gonna make a huge difference in your amp. The Summit has one, and it's the only I know of. Nice feature but really unnecessary especially if your amp is decent.
The REDDI really is the best, but the Summit and Demeter do really great, too.
This was the REDDI:
This is the Summit:
This is the Demeter (I think):
Thing is, I used totally different basses and strings. Hollowbody w/flats, Big Singles w/rounds, graphite necked fretless.
And what makes something stand out even more is how hot it is in the mix. Often the hotness makes the track "sound better" because you notice the high end DI less on a quieter track.
Something different, but would have already been brought up in some older thread.
Avenson Audio Iso-DI.
Got mine for cheap used. About $60. Phantom powered only. Small. Great transparent sounding DI. Doesn't seems to color your bass onboard preamp/passive tone. Good to keep in the gig bag as a spare.
I have been on basstasters. Great site. I agree with you about not needing an affected out. Seems like to me, more of these tube DIs have the affected out than don't.
Nice clips drnknmstr!
If you're going to choose between any of these, I'd go with the Summit. It has the most useful features, sounds as good as anything in its class, great for live and studio application, it's easy to fit in a gig bag.
I'd swap out again but I don't want to hassle with it. The Demeter does sound good, too, so I'm just gonna keep it. The Countryman works great for my live uses.
If you can afford it, a Demeter Tube DI is the best thing I've ever heard for studio and live applications.
Thanks for all the feedback, guys. My countryman DI actually came back to me!! Unreal. I left it a a club in Uvalde, TX. My guit player also left a very expensive mic. The club owners tracked down our stuff and mailed it back to us, no charge... good people.
So, sticking with the countryman for now. May try my TH350 as a direct recording device too next time.
If not the REDDI then the TAB V71DI, both are preamps *and* DI's.
Ya. I think I would go with the REDDI, but just going to save my money and stick with the Countryman for right now.
Maybe an idea. Cheaper than the REDDI but very good sound. In the link are some soundfiles.
Its compared to a Radial JDI.
The thru is affected by the tube.
1. I've played the db900 through dozens of amps and it always works fine and sounds great. I basically don't play without mine no matter what the rig/circumstance.
2. You could certainly mod the Aggie to do this, but rather than muss with an expensive (and increasingly rare) box I would put something upstream to split the signal. I think (someone can correct me) that something like the boss ls2 would be able to do this. The SVT Tube DI allows for switchable output affected/unaffected. I have this DI as well as the Aggie and it's a quality unit if you can find one. If you can't, the Khan DI is designed by the same engineer.
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