Just bought a delta 1010lt and have a LOT of latency....

Stanley Design · #1 02-07-2009, 01:22 PM

Help. I'm not too hip to the jive about recording. My old setup was just a mixer using the RCA tape out converted to 1/8" stereo to my regular line in. Recorded into CoolEditPro 2.1

I just bought an M audio 1010lt last night, installed it, peachy. Ableton Live Lite 6, peachy. I'm having a ton of white noise problems in recording unless I pump my channel gain on my mixer and keep my master really low, that's okay. It's a crappy Behringer mixer, so obviously that's the problem.

I have a ton of latency though. Going from my dual XLR out on my mixer to the dual XLR in on my soundcard. If I have it on live playback I can speak and the sound is reaching the computer almost a full second later. Maybe I have too much cable between source and software, but this is not going to allow me to record seperate tracks as easily as I would like.

Help!

This software is going to take a lot longer to get used to than cooledit was.

v-grooves · #2 02-07-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Design

Help. I'm not too hip to the jive about recording. My old setup was just a mixer using the RCA tape out converted to 1/8" stereo to my regular line in. Recorded into CoolEditPro 2.1

I just bought an M audio 1010lt last night, installed it, peachy. Ableton Live Lite 6, peachy. I'm having a ton of white noise problems in recording unless I pump my channel gain on my mixer and keep my master really low, that's okay. It's a crappy Behringer mixer, so obviously that's the problem.

I have a ton of latency though. Going from my dual XLR out on my mixer to the dual XLR in on my soundcard. If I have it on live playback I can speak and the sound is reaching the computer almost a full second later. Maybe I have too much cable between source and software, but this is not going to allow me to record seperate tracks as easily as I would like.

Help!

This software is going to take a lot longer to get used to than cooledit was.

Try some different drivers.....that is usually where the problem lies.

A good asio drive can get you latency around 9 ms which is barely noticeable.

Depending on what DAW software program you are using, there are some tests you can run to get your latency lower. I use Cubase 4 for example and they have some setup/test programs that help out in that area.

I would try to download the most recent ASIO drives first.

Good luck,
V

Stanley Design · #3 02-07-2009, 02:58 PM

Right on! I think that did the trick. Still having some clipping problems with the signal from my mixer, but I don't think that's my cards fault.

Charling · #4 02-07-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Design

Right on! I think that did the trick. Still having some clipping problems with the signal from my mixer, but I don't think that's my cards fault.

The dual xlr in on a 1010 are the mic pre amps, you dont want to go from a desk output into a mic preamp, that will most certainly clip with very little signal!

mic preamps are for amplifying the (very very small) signal from a microphone. you want to go into one of the phono sockets on the 1010, they are numbered but very hard to see, silly design really.

I think the mic pres are the 1 and 2 (i may be wrong its a while since I had one) if thats the case your 'main' inputs from the desk should be 3 and 4!

Owen

projectMalamute · #5 02-07-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Design

Right on! I think that did the trick. Still having some clipping problems with the signal from my mixer, but I don't think that's my cards fault.

The 1010LT has a set of jumpers on the card itself that you need to set depending on what levels you are expecting to be seeing on the XLR inputs.

I forget the details, but one setting is giving you some 30dB of gain from some cheesy internal micamps. I'm pretty sure it comes that way by default, and if you are giving it a line level signal from a mixer the levels will seem very hot.

It's in the manual.

fwiw I've got one of them things on this (old ass) machine running a bunch of stuff at 2.67ms latency as I type this. The hardware is fine, if you can figure out how to get your OS to work with it.

Stanley Design · #6 02-07-2009, 04:08 PM

In the manual it says that they come with the jumpers set at microphone line level and if I jump them it goes up to a +4dbu line level. The mic level is +30db. It says I can flip flop the variable signal level to attenuate it. The illustration shows it like this....

1: MIC level +30
1A: MIC level attenuates +30 by 11db tp make it 19db

2: LINE level +14dbu peak +4 mode
2A: LINE level +3dbu peak +4 mode

So I guess 1A would be my answer?

iuserneim · #7 02-07-2009, 04:31 PM

try ASIO 4 ALL.
it is quite good. i had huge latency with my lexicon with the original driver from lexicon. then, i switched to asio4all, and i'm at about a third of the latency.

http://www.asio4all.com/

but first, check if your sound card is supported.

hope it helped...

fretlessrock · #8 02-07-2009, 05:10 PM

Also, for live monitoring you should be listening to the 1010 hardware out. You will always have latency when monitoring through the DAW.

Nick Kay · #9 02-07-2009, 05:23 PM

If you're taking the signal from the mixer out to the soundcard, set the jumper for Line Level. If you're taking a mic or DI signal straight into the soundcard, set the jumper for Mic Level.

To reduce latency, you can set your hardware for a smaller buffer. You can do this through the M-Audio Delta's hardware control panel, or within your DAW's audio settings. A smaller sample buffer requires a more powerful machine to avoid clicks, pops and other audio artifacts. You can also increase your sample rate (ie: from 44.1kHz or 48kHz up to 96kHz). Going from 48kHz up to 96kHz should, theoretically, cut your latency in half. It requires a significantly more powerful machine and a lot more hard-drive space, though.