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11-16-2012, 06:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Iowa, USA & Slovenia, EU | | | Laptop vs. iPad I have a simple question really - can iPads match laptops when it comes to recording? I know that tech specs probably speak in favor of laptops, but for an overall experience, might iPad be a better choice?
I am looking to be able to record music, at a level of a decent demo:
* Program the drum beat, lay some tracks for bass, guitar and keys, mix
* I want to use a USB keyboard to record keys (piano, el. piano, etc)
* Some noise can probably be tolerated
* Latency has to be bearable at least...
* I want a simple interface (user friendly experience), and as little software/hardware issues (like compatibility, etc)
I have a laptop (Intel Core i5-2557M CPU @ 1.7Ghz; 6GB of RAM; 64-bit Win 7 Professional), but am seriously considering getting an iPad anyway.
Any other tips welcome, but let's keep this primarily iPad vs. laptop! | 
11-16-2012, 06:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Fl | | | I would buy a projectmix and use the laptop. | 
11-17-2012, 11:51 AM
| | | | Laptop, PC or Mac, has a lot more power, and a lot more software and plugins, for now.
iPad Retina is quite a powerful machine.
Soundwise - for 4 or less channels simultaneous recording - it's a draw
I'm thinking hard about an iPad, in addition to my laptop. It was disappointing the iPad mini was essentially an iPad 2 in smaller form. Next year I'd like to see a iPad mini with the same CPU's as the iPad retina.
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11-20-2012, 02:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Two Horse, U.K | | | i use JAM>ipad2>Auria and LOVE it!!
im only me though, 1 channel recording.. | 
11-20-2012, 03:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | Use Touch OSC to control your laptop...
Nope... still not there.. I own both... old laptop has more flexiblity
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11-21-2012, 05:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Iowa, USA & Slovenia, EU | | Thanks all, sounds like iPad might be good enough for what I want to do!
For future reference, I got some replies in this thread too: iPad and recording | 
11-21-2012, 05:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Durham, NC | | | I hate the iPad. We have a couple for my wife's work and I would only pick one up if every other device was broken.
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11-21-2012, 07:01 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | I love my iPad.
But a laptop is far better as far as recording systems at low cost and free software is concerned. | 
11-22-2012, 06:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | I Just bought a high end tablet pc (touch screen) for 100.... Ports.... Storage.... Bluetooth... USB ...... No iTunes
Xp3 and stable
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11-22-2012, 10:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Graham, Washington, USA | | | One large thing to consider, is ins and outs. How do you get instrument sounds in to the iPad, or laptop. And, how do you get recordings back out. A USB keyboard was mentioned. Can you connect that keyboard to the iPad? There's plenty of hardware/software available for the laptop. What is there for the iPad? Just stuff to think about.
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11-22-2012, 10:34 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mount Airy, North Carolina | | | I seriously would look for a 4 Track and go old school. If you decide to go Hi Tech, Go Desk Top PC and make it a real power house. Powerful Desktop = quick processing time and no weird Lagging and silly glitches. You can put some $$ into a Killer Sound Card with ton's of interfaces etc...JM2C GL. | 
11-22-2012, 01:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Two Horse, U.K | | Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCbassist I seriously would look for a 4 Track and go old school. | i was only talking to a friend of mine earlier today and i can actually be quoted as saying : "we never had any of this trouble when we used cassette 4 tracks"
hahahahahaha , but yeh GL  | 
11-23-2012, 12:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: LaMesa/SpringValley/SanDiego | | | Accessibility on the iPad is pretty convenient. Cost of the Ipad, Apogee Jam, and apps can add up, but thinking a little cheaper than a quality laptop and software. I have an Ipad2 with a bunch of apps including several synths that are amazing. There are many recording apps out there that are good quality. There are several drum machines available that are excellent. It also seems that there is huge emphasis on development for iOS music in general. The only thing that bothers me is that there isn't too many apps out there geared towards bass players or that give a big, clear sound. My suggestion is that you pick up a pre amp or DI pedalboard to run through so you can dial in your tone for recording. Hartke and Mark Bass make great pre amp pedals. Apogee Jam for the Ipad is the better quality instrument input. Apps I suggest for Ipad are:
Recording:
Garage Band
Music Studio
FL Studio
Synths:
Animoog
ThumbJam
Wave Generator
Sunrizer Synth
Korg IMS-20
NLog Pro
Drum Apps:
Impaktor
Funk Box
Drum Jam
Electribe
Sampler/Looping app:
LoopyHD
AmpSimulation:
JamUp Pro
AmpKit
Garage Band
Other:
Gestrument
Proppelerhead Figure
iKaoscillator
Borderlands
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11-23-2012, 12:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: LaMesa/SpringValley/SanDiego | | | The thing I love about ipad apps is that most of the updates are free. Some offer in app purchases, but my experience with PC software is that as music progresses, file compression and file formats change you end up forking out cash for updates to your software because it becomes obsolete and software isn't cheap.
Audiobus is coming out for iOS which will give you the ability to utilize and manipulate several apps on the fly and at the same time creating a lot of flexibility for those who want to record or play live. | 
11-23-2012, 02:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Two Horse, U.K | | | @robert - thanks for list of apps man | 
11-23-2012, 04:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Iowa, USA & Slovenia, EU | | | +1, this list is great!
For the naysayers: this was not a purely rational decision. I know many facts speak against iPads, but a part of me just wanted to give it a try for the sake of giving it a try. If I wanted to be serious about recording, I'd buy a dedicated non-laptop PC/MAC and go from there... | 
11-23-2012, 05:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | I do some serious recording on the iPad, it's just as good as anything else sound-wise (within interface limitation).
Just got the focusrite itack solo and it is excellent.
I had the alesis idock, which was also quite good but my issue was having to take the ipad out of a case to use it (i use the otterbox cases, my ipad is mobile all the time). In fact my ipad ended up taking a hit while not in the case so i could use the idock, and it pissed me off enough to ditch the alesis and wait for something better for my needs. | 
11-26-2012, 01:32 PM
| | | | My one hesitation about using the iPad as your host is that programs crash all the time on iOS - it's not a very stable system if you're doing anything important. If you're just recording yourself at home for fun, go for it, it's a very cost-effective way of recording, but if you're dealing with clients at all, very much would NOT recommend it!
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11-26-2012, 01:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | I haven't had any issues with iOS crashes myself while tracking-
recorded a 5 hour writing session yesterday with mic and direct in using daw Multitrack/ itrack solo/ ios6.
I have had more issues with using the iPad as a remote controller for digital consoles than anything else. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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