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Old 11-03-2011, 02:49 PM
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Lowpassing and Hipassing different tracks of the bass guitar

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I want to mix 3 bass tracks
One is my DI track. One for the low passed bassy track, and the third for my grit.
The low passed bassy track I want to creat it with VSTs I have.
The high passed track with grit adding some overdrive from guitar rig.
I dont know how to do this.

I need High pass and low pass filters???Which are common filters for the bass guitar and easy for a novice at recording alone like me??
Which are the cut-off frequencies for the bass guitar??At how many Hz??

I am using Nuendo, wich EQ will work for me

Nuendo effects plug ins

EQ StudioEQ This powerful and versatile equalizer offers full four-band parametric control with variable response curves and shelving modes, as well as analogue-style peak filters. The new EQ types are also available in Nuendo 4’s new channel EQ.
GEQ10 Graphic Equalizer with 10 bands; features drawing of EQ curves, an invert parameter, and seven different response types. Also features a global range control for overall amount of equalization.
GEQ30 Graphic Equalizer with 30 bands; features drawing of EQ curves, an invert parameter, and seven different response types. Also features a global range control for overall amount of equalization.
Filter WahWah Typical wah-wah pedal modelling effect - lets you emulate your favourite wah-wah pedals. Features parameters for frequency-range, filter-width, and gain range.
Dual Filter This unique effect combines low-pass and high-pass filters with single Cutoff and Resonance controls. Great for DJ-style filter effects.
Post Filter This filter has been specifically designed to remove unwanted noise such has rumble, high-frequency noise or specific interference signals such as 60 Hz hum and high frequency tones created by screens or hard drives. The included notch filter is extremely steep and makes additional harmonic notches available if needed.

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Old 11-03-2011, 03:08 PM
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I want to mix 3 bass tracks
One is my DI track. One for the low passed bassy track, and the third for my grit.
The low passed bassy track I want to creat it with VSTs I have.
The high passed track with grit adding some overdrive from guitar rig.
I dont know how to do this.

I need High pass and low pass filters???Which are common filters for the bass guitar and easy for a novice at recording alone like me??
Which are the cut-off frequencies for the bass guitar??At how many Hz??
I think I get what you're saying. I have a split channel preamp (Ampeg SVP-BSP) that has a clean and a dirty channel. My clean channel is pretty my clean sound, and my dirty sound has an fx loop on it running a MoogerFooger LowPass Filter. My dirty channel has a lot of distortion and overdrive options that I can as straight dirt or I can feed various versions of this dirty into my MoogerFooger. So when I record I record 2 tracks. The Line out from my clean and the line out from my dirty channel. If I wanted to, I could also record a third track through a DI, but I don't. I like to get as close to what my rig sounds live for recording. I record with a MOTU 8Pre interface into Ableton Live for your reference.

W/O this set up I would record a clean track, duplicate it three times and then drop each flavor into it's respective track. One would be with a High Pass Filter, another with a Low Pass Filter, and the original clean channel. The adjust the volumes/balance in the mix. With that said, I'm not sure you're going to get the results you imagined, but you might discover something else that's cool along the way.
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:31 PM
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I think I get what you're saying. I have a split channel preamp (Ampeg SVP-BSP) that has a clean and a dirty channel. My clean channel is pretty my clean sound, and my dirty sound has an fx loop on it running a MoogerFooger LowPass Filter. My dirty channel has a lot of distortion and overdrive options that I can as straight dirt or I can feed various versions of this dirty into my MoogerFooger. So when I record I record 2 tracks. The Line out from my clean and the line out from my dirty channel. If I wanted to, I could also record a third track through a DI, but I don't. I like to get as close to what my rig sounds live for recording. I record with a MOTU 8Pre interface into Ableton Live for your reference.

W/O this set up I would record a clean track, duplicate it three times and then drop each flavor into it's respective track. One would be with a High Pass Filter, another with a Low Pass Filter, and the original clean channel. The adjust the volumes/balance in the mix. With that said, I'm not sure you're going to get the results you imagined, but you might discover something else that's cool along the way.
Do you know any software to hi pass and low pass 2 tracks after recording only one clean track?
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:52 PM
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Copy the source track to 2 additional tracks. Then apply the filters at will. The particular filter you select would depend on your DAW software.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:07 PM
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Do you know any software to hi pass and low pass 2 tracks after recording only one clean track?
Ableton Live. That's what I use. It has some pretty good presets. Off the top of my head I think it's the 'auto filters folder' called the 'Cuto Matic H' and the Cut o Matic L' with the 'H' and 'L' being high and low respectively. There are a bunch of others too. It has quite a lot of effects options. I'm not sure if GarageBand has a High Pass/Low Pass filter, but it does have different envelopes that could probably be tweaked for the job.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:14 PM
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I would be inclined to re-amp for the disto track...
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Copy the source track to 2 additional tracks. Then apply the filters at will. The particular filter you select would depend on your DAW software.

I am using nuendo, it has that filters??
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:18 PM
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I would be inclined to re-amp for the disto track...
I have a GK 1001rbll and a hartke xl 4x10 they told me the hartke is not so good for recording purposes, moreover I dont have a good acustic place to record it and a microphone, so perhaps for me it should be better to use VST amps
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It shouldn't matter what recording software you're using. I'm with Maki, dupe that track onto two more blank tracks then use the VST on each. I tend to use Cubase, and use the default parametric EQ set to either high pass or low pass depending on what you're doing. Although I'd personally want to double or triple track those parts, just to give it a 'bigger' feel.
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It shouldn't matter what recording software you're using. I'm with Maki, dupe that track onto two more blank tracks then use the VST on each. I tend to use Cubase, and use the default parametric EQ set to either high pass or low pass depending on what you're doing. Although I'd personally want to double or triple track those parts, just to give it a 'bigger' feel.
Where I have to set the parametric EQ of the nuendo (if it have one) in order to high pass or low pass bass guitar??

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Where I have to set the parametric EQ of the nuendo in order to high pass or low pass bass guitar??
Check your parametric. Mine has the option of low pass, high pass, and shelving settings where the Q adjustment is.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:21 PM
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The middle point of your frequency range is somewhere around 1 KHz. Most of the "meat" of your notes is below 1 KHz, but most of the "tone", distortion, and other upper harmonic content is above that point. Start there, with one copy of the track rolling off everything above 1K, and another copy rolling off everything below 1K. From there, you can experiment with whatever sounds good. Sometimes I set a crossover as low as 150 or 200 Hz, depending on what result I'm trying to achieve.

Nuendo should have those filters already available, and at least should definitely have a parametric EQ that can be adjusted to become those filters.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:54 PM
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The middle point of your frequency range is somewhere around 1 KHz. Most of the "meat" of your notes is below 1 KHz, but most of the "tone", distortion, and other upper harmonic content is above that point. Start there, with one copy of the track rolling off everything above 1K, and another copy rolling off everything below 1K. From there, you can experiment with whatever sounds good. Sometimes I set a crossover as low as 150 or 200 Hz, depending on what result I'm trying to achieve.

Nuendo should have those filters already available, and at least should definitely have a parametric EQ that can be adjusted to become those filters.
So if I understand this is the same as using low pass from 0hz to 1000hz (for cutting the high frequencies) and in the other track high pass from 0hz to 1000hz (for cutting the low frequencies)
I am right?

Moreover, I have found the EQ for Low Pass and High Pass....I am wondering why it has 3 adjustable things, the gain, beyond gain the frequency and it has another that goes from 12.0 to 0.0 that has only the letter Q. Where I have to set that Q thing and what does it means?

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Old 11-04-2011, 12:08 AM
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Different EQ Types Explained

"Q" stands for "quality" and it can be understood as "how wide of a region is being affected by this band of EQ".
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Different EQ Types Explained

"Q" stands for "quality" and it can be understood as "how wide of a region is being affected by this band of EQ".

It is commonly used for boosting or cutting frequencies??Or I leave it at 0..
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:35 AM
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It depends on how you want to shape the sound. Look to see if that EQ includes some sort of graphic representation of the shape of how it is affecting the signal.

Normally for a high pass or low pass "Q" is not an issue, because everything above or below the corner frequency is affected. So see if that filter program has any options for that.
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