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11-14-2002, 09:17 AM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | New Monitors needed!!!!
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What would you guys recommend? I actually need advice for two sets. One, fairly high end set and one lower cost (300$-600$) set that would be used for rough mixes etc.
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11-14-2002, 09:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: north central wisconsin | | | I bought two naddy PFW12 peak power of 400 watts they sound pretty good. Only 100.00 each new.
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11-15-2002, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The frozen north | | | I use Tannoy Reveal actives, you could probably find them for about $700 or so, I think they are decent, any significantly better and you'd have to pay much more.
IMHO, there's a lot of personal opinions and mumbo-jumbo involved when people discuss monitors, when the main important factor really is to learn how your monitors' sound translates to your stereo, car or pc speakers. Just buy monitors that are detailed and have a reasonably flat frequency response, and stay with them for long enough to learn how they present your mix.
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11-15-2002, 02:18 PM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | Quote: Originally posted by Anders Östberg I use Tannoy Reveal actives, you could probably find them for about $700 or so, I think they are decent, any significantly better and you'd have to pay much more.
IMHO, there's a lot of personal opinions and mumbo-jumbo involved when people discuss monitors, when the main important factor really is to learn how your monitors' sound translates to your stereo, car or pc speakers. Just buy monitors that are detailed and have a reasonably flat frequency response, and stay with them for long enough to learn how they present your mix. |
True! I've narrowed it down to a few pairs each of Tannoy and Event.
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11-15-2002, 02:23 PM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | | I use Studiophile SP8's, and I like them a lot. I would have bought a pair of the Yamaha MSP10's, but the Studiophiles were about 50% cheaper. I agree completely with Anders about the subjective nature of monitor assessments. Ask 10 different people, get 15 different answers. | 
11-15-2002, 02:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pacific Northwest USA | | | axman...
Blisshead was asking for opinions on studio/mix style monitors rather than floor/stage monitors. I was kornfuzed at first too.. Hey Blisshead -
Our guitar player bought a used set of powered Alesis, I think they're called M1's, and they sound fantastic for the money. I'm sure they do not compare to the real high budget stuff, but they would probably be great for rough mixes. And easy to pick up new or used, for very little salad.
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11-15-2002, 02:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Philly | | Quote: Originally posted by Blisshead I've narrowed it down to a few pairs each of Tannoy and Event. | My drummer has a pair of Event 20/20bas that sound great. I've also used the Tannoy Reveal actives, and was very pleased with them.
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11-15-2002, 03:27 PM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | | I'm leaning towards the 2020's. The get phenominal reviews from everyone. I understrand the subjectivity involved, but I'm taking a small chance either way so I try these first. (I can always return them!)
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11-15-2002, 09:02 PM
|  | Student of Life Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, KY | | | Subjectivity implied, but I got to A/B the Studiophiles against the entire event line, and to my ears they murdered every single one of them. YMMV. | 
11-15-2002, 10:19 PM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | Quote: Originally posted by Chris Fitzgerald Subjectivity implied, but I got to A/B the Studiophiles against the entire event line, and to my ears they murdered every single one of them. YMMV. | OK, a few people have said that now. The Studiophiles are powered right? I wonder how much the amp has to do with it? I think I'll call around and see if someone (store or studio) can set that up for me. Thanks, that will be the kicker.
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11-19-2002, 04:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC | | | So yeah, they cost a little more, but you owe it yourself to listen to the Mackie HR824s.
They're basically knockoffs of the Genelec 1030 (or whatever the model is, I forget...). They don't have the very fine resolution of the Genelecs, but they come stupidly close at a fraction of the price, and they absolutely rip the pants off of any other monitor in their price range.
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11-20-2002, 12:24 PM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | Quote: Originally posted by feckn_eejit So yeah, they cost a little more, but you owe it yourself to listen to the Mackie HR824s.
They're basically knockoffs of the Genelec 1030 (or whatever the model is, I forget...). They don't have the very fine resolution of the Genelecs, but they come stupidly close at a fraction of the price, and they absolutely rip the pants off of any other monitor in their price range.
--jeff | I keep hearing that the Behringer Truths are an exact rip-off of these speakers. I need to hear them both.
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11-21-2002, 02:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Sweden | | | I got a pair of Spirit Absolute 2's for quite cheap. I like them, they are very nice to work with. Clean sound all the way, great bass response, good stereo imaging, and they have a sound very comfortable for my ears. On the downside is size (they're pretty big and bulky) and the fact that they might be slightly more "polite" than other monitors... but that only makes them nicer to listen to. I'd say try them if you can.
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11-21-2002, 10:45 AM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | Quote: Originally posted by Oysterman I got a pair of Spirit Absolute 2's for quite cheap. I like them, they are very nice to work with. Clean sound all the way, great bass response, good stereo imaging, and they have a sound very comfortable for my ears. On the downside is size (they're pretty big and bulky) and the fact that they might be slightly more "polite" than other monitors... but that only makes them nicer to listen to. I'd say try them if you can.
EDIT: spelling/grammar | I will look for them. I haven't come across them locally yet though.
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11-24-2002, 08:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC | | Quote: Originally posted by Blisshead
I keep hearing that the Behringer Truths are an exact rip-off of these speakers. I need to hear them both. | I've never heard the Behringers...
I had the opportunity, however, to listen to the Mackies and a pair of Genelecs A/B'd in a studio. The Genelecs cost MUCH more, and I do understand why people pony up for them - but the Mackie's give you 95% of that for much less. Where the Genelecs really kill the Mackies is when you crank them - the Mackies get harsh and compressed, but we're talking well over 100db here, and you should be doing all your work in the 80's for the ol' logarithmic hearing response
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11-25-2002, 10:02 AM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | Quote: Originally posted by feckn_eejit
I've never heard the Behringers...
I had the opportunity, however, to listen to the Mackies and a pair of Genelecs A/B'd in a studio. The Genelecs cost MUCH more, and I do understand why people pony up for them - but the Mackie's give you 95% of that for much less. Where the Genelecs really kill the Mackies is when you crank them - the Mackies get harsh and compressed, but we're talking well over 100db here, and you should be doing all your work in the 80's for the ol' logarithmic hearing response 
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So that isn't much of a factor then. Good to know, thanks!
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12-07-2002, 01:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC | | | The Mackie HR824s really are spectacular for the price. I think one would be insane not to at least give them a listen if you're shopping for ANY monitors in ANY price range... price may not always be an issue, but the Mackies deliver truely awesome value.
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12-09-2002, 10:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Another vote for the Mackie HR824. Just picked up a set on the weekend, they rilly are incredible. A/Bed them with the Event 20/20bas and the Mackies clearly won out. Smooth response, no bumps and they go very deep while the 20/20s had a noticeable bump in the mid-low range and another in the treble range somewhere. They seemed to go as deep but somehow hollow in the low end. The Mackies just seemed to do everything better with no discernible colouration. I can hardly wait to use them in a mixing session on Wednesday. | 
12-10-2002, 02:48 PM
|  | - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Moderator | | | | | Went with the Studiophiles, the Mackies are too much for me right now, though they sound incredible. I am very happy with the Studiophile sound.
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12-10-2002, 02:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pacific Northwest USA | | | Suh-WEET!! ummmm.... can I borrow them for a few years??
What are you recording / monitoring?
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