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11-09-2008, 09:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: danville, CA | | | recording bass tracks today couple questions
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My band recorded all the other tracks at a local JC but I couldnt make it so we are recording the bass tracks today. And I was planning on running the rig like this, Bass-DI-effects board-SVTIII DI- Beta 52 on my 15 and sm57 on my 210 pointed at one of the 10s. Does this sound right, I mean I have 8 channels I can use up so might as well get all the different sounds I can right?
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11-09-2008, 10:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Madison Wi | | | Some of your signals will be pretty redundant, and with each signal you are adding more to the noise floor, 4+ signals when really only two are needed may cause enough noise that may be a problem. If I were recording you I would just stick to Bass - DI - Effects -Amp - Mic on the 15. Maybe the DI off of the head if it is a good clean signal (including your effects).
You will get all of the clarity off the DI's, so the 57 on one of the 10s would not be needed.
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11-09-2008, 10:41 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, Onatrio, Canada | | Considering the other tracks are complete you may want to consider recording your parts in the engineering room where you can listen through the monitors. It's not uncommon for the bass player to lay everything down with the band, but only as a ghost track for the other players. (I know that doesn't speak to capturing the whole band 'jelling' live together, but in your case it's too late for that). Then re-do the bass parts while being able to hear much more in the mix which allows for more subtlety, sensitivity, and general attention to the bass parts.(which of course is the most important part!  Obviously you can still go through your pre-amp and any 'neccessary' effects you want before going into the board.
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11-09-2008, 01:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | and your not ticked that your not recording with the drummer??? Never quite grooves right when drums and bass record separately.
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11-09-2008, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DocBop  and your not ticked that your not recording with the drummer??? Never quite grooves right when drums and bass record separately. | True, tends to depend on the style of music though
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11-10-2008, 09:19 AM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dmilt23451 Some of your signals will be pretty redundant, and with each signal you are adding more to the noise floor, 4+ signals when really only two are needed may cause enough noise that may be a problem. If I were recording you I would just stick to Bass - DI - Effects -Amp - Mic on the 15. Maybe the DI off of the head if it is a good clean signal (including your effects).
You will get all of the clarity off the DI's, so the 57 on one of the 10s would not be needed. | +1. DI for clean sound. Line out of head. Mic on the cab. I would choose one cab and roll with that. Otherwise you'll spend a LOT of time dialing in a workable level and less time getting down to the work you need to do. |
11-10-2008, 09:38 AM
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Endorsing Artist: GK, Schecter, D'Addario, Normandy, Dunlop | | | | | Just because I had the time, and I own my studio, I decided to "go overboard" while recording bass tracks recently.
It went like this:
Bass into a Radial JDV DI (track 1)
DI out to a Lehle passive splitter
Channel 1 out to an Ampeg SVT-VR
SVT-VR DI (track 2)
8x10 cab w/ Senn 421 & AKG D112 mics on a speaker (tracks 3 & 4)
Channel 2 out to my pedal board (for this session, just the bass big muff), then to an Ampeg SVT 2Pro
SVT 2Pro DI (track 5)
8x10 cab w/ Senn 421 & Shure SM57 on a speaker (tracks 6 & 7)
Overkill?
Maybe, but I got the absolute best tone I've EVER recorded for bass. I had a producer friend come by to listen to the sound, and he was blown away.
I say if you have the time and the gear to do multiple tracks, just do it. It is MUCH better to have more to eliminate, than not enough to add from when you do your final mixes.
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11-10-2008, 01:40 PM
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It seems like a lot of ways of getting phase distortion, track slipping can help but I like the old little labs phase/re amp tool for sorting out all those low frequency phase cancellations in multiple signal recording.  |
11-10-2008, 09:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: danville, CA | | | well what we did was run. bass-DI-effetcs-amp di-beta 52-audix D6 both the on the 15 and a sm 57 on the 210. Now the D6 and the 57 together sounded good and in a rough mix with the first di sounded really good. I was suprised on how bad the 52 sounded, mybe it was mic placment or my eq settings it just sounded... well bad. when it all gets mastered I will post em.
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