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Old 10-18-2007, 08:40 AM
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Question Zoom H4 Handy Recorder ?

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Here is the product link

http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...fm?prodID=1901

Review from O'Reilly

http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007...-recorder.html

I'm thinking about picking this up just to capture grooves with one of the drummers that I'm working with and then send them to my guitarist so he can come up with parts at home.

Looks interesting but wanted some real world yeahs or neahs.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:03 AM
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I just got an H2 - it's awesome. Sounds great, very easy to use.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:08 AM
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I've got an H2 and love it. I think it's better than the H4 for my live jam / rehearsal / sketch pad device (and $100 cheaper).

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Old 10-18-2007, 12:25 PM
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Using one since late November 2006 recording EVERY gig(one or more per week).

Good:
Amazing sound quality, portable.
Effects(not used yet), multiple choice of inputs
Direct dump to PC using USB port
Selectable TYPE of file AND bit rates(I use 160 kbps mp3)
Picks up amazingly well(see pix)
Does come with a tripod base adapter
Can record ANYTHING(concerts, symphonies, voice, etc.)

Ugly:
Use the power adapter if you record gigs. AA's lasted ~ 3+ hours and died.
Use WAV format if you want EXACT but HUGE files and minimum record time.
USE the windscreen ALL of the time. Even a slight breeze either makes windnoise or(in my case) triggers the comp/limit that I do use.

NOTES:
ALWAYS check the input sensitivity switches
ALWAYS check the file type setting(mp3 or WAV)

Samples from gigs(drummer has a LOUD snare):
http://media.putfile.com/H4-1st-Use-UnProc

http://media.putfile.com/Growl-Eyed-Girl




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Old 11-26-2007, 12:40 AM
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Yet another use

Recording dispute-settling phone calls to you cell phone provider.

In this case, their salesman lied to my wife about plan cost changes. When I checked the website, I was going to be hit with about another $55 per month x 12 = $660 per year. I was not happy.

Called the 1-888- number, told rep I was recording(speakerphone, Zoom H4 on medium sensitivity), and let my wife have at 'em(actually we both did). The underling passed us to a supervisor who gave us what the salesman claimed MY WIFE signed for: a free phone for my 17 year old son and 450 for free. The regional salesmanager and the CEO are getting Certified Letters about this salesman taking advantage of wives and his lack of truth-telling abilities.

But we got a phone for my son for $0.00 all documented on the H4 and my computer(printscreen, save in Paint).

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This is the 2nd cellphone provider using this technique of misleading(lying) to folks to get them locked into a contract. We were on hold for a total of 30+ minutes as they WANT you to give up IMO.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:29 AM
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i never used the h4, but working in music sales, i sell A LOT of them.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:16 AM
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I've got an H2 and love it. I think it's better than the H4 for my live jam / rehearsal / sketch pad device (and $100 cheaper).
I was impressed by the H2 my drummer buddy brought to a jam session last night. Seems like it's designed for quickly capturing sounds in a room. Picked up a lot of what I heard going on in the room with our guitar-bass-drum trio.

Features like the mic stand mount and FX are very cool, especially if compressor/limiter works well. I've been looking for a quick, portable sketchpad and the simplicity of the H2 is appealing.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:54 PM
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Recording rehearsals is (IMO) critical for a band to improve. It's extremely difficult to be objective while you're playing. These flash based players make it dead easy. Place it on a flat surface, verify the level setting and press record. At the end, press stop.

When I get home after a rehearsal, I pull out the SD card, put it in my computer, and upload the files to web space.

Sound quality is really good, and the recordings sound very close to what I was getting when I was dragging a bunch of recording gear including very good microphones.

Everyone listens to what they did, and personal pride has each of us fixing what we personally messed up. The improvements in the band have been dramatic in a very short time.

If I was using it solely to record rehearsals, I would have got the H2. The H2's 360 degree micing would have made it easier to pick up everything in a rehearsal room. The H4 has a more standard stereo mic configuration, so with vocal monitors facing the band (and backline), the vocals didn't come through that well. Now, I point a monitor at it - problem solved.

But the H4 lets you plug in external mics, and instruments. It has amp simulation, a tuner and a metronome. So, for an extra $100, I can use it for silent practicing. And if I have a song idea, it takes seconds to fire it up and put it down.

It also can be used as a USB stereo audio interface. It's not great in that application, but it's serviceable. So, I can grab my laptop, toss in a bass and guitar, and record away (including vocals and acoustic guitar with the built in mics).

The other comments on the thread are accurate. Doesn't feel as rugged as some of the competing devices, and the menu system and controls are more complicated than need be.

Quibbles aside, I love mine (a word I don't use often with inanimate objects other than my bass).

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Old 12-05-2007, 05:25 PM
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I use the H4. If you check on our site everything up there was done during normal practices (stereo mode) straight from the sound board to the H4---raw/unedited---it's a great easy to use device...

www.myspace.com/bitterendny
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:45 PM
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I'm very very new to the talkbass. I should've signed up years ago. This might have been covered already.

My guitarist uses the H4 to record rehearsals, record shows, and throw out new song ideas to us. I borrowed it from him for a one-off show with another band (opening for a big big act). I used it for recording rehearsals and for the show (from the board). The sound quality was great off of the board. I had to finesse the rehearsals a little bit with software to get rid of the boominess in the concrete basement.

Yeah...it feels cheap and plastic. It seems to me that it's worth it, though. I'm looking for one since I have two bands and I do 'moonlight' with needy acts in town too often.

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Old 10-14-2008, 07:15 AM
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I'm partial to the Edirol R-09 in that price range. Past reviewers selected the Edirol due to a higher quality condensor mic.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:32 AM
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Another H2 user - just recently bought it, LOVE it. Although I've only recorded a couple rehearsals & 1 live gig so far, the recordings came out sounding fantastic. I'll be recording many more. I love the choice of recording in wav, mp3, choice of sample rates, etc. Also, if your H2's firmware is up-to-date, the H2 will take a massive 16GB SD card made by a company called Transcend. I have a Transcend 16GB SD card in mine - never have to worry about running out of space on a gig no matter what format I choose (wav or mp3), regardless of recording sample rate I choose.
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