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Old 06-26-2008, 10:08 AM
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Fingering at the neck

With all this activity on fingering, I thought I'd toss in another article. When I was doing the "Practical Studies", I kept redoing the neck fingering problems - how to jump right to a upper Eb or F or F# with accuracy and confidence. So, the result was an article - also a presention at another ISB convention. To check it out, go to Bob's site, click on books, articles, etc., and go down to the F's and click on the 'Four Fingerings', etc. Takes the fear out of "flying high!"

http://www.gollihurmusic.com/links.cfm

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Old 07-01-2008, 03:04 PM
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Another thought occured to me. When I was giving this as part of an ISB presentation, a teacher asked me, "When using the extended cork screw, does the thumb remain in the curvature of the neck?"
I thought about it and answered that if the hand felt comfortable - then yes. If it didn't, just hit the spot for a split second to establish the position and release the thumb. I thought I had better mention that.
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Old 07-04-2008, 03:46 PM
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Good Lord! Two thoughts in a week!! I want to mention in the Practical Studies, I used only the first three hand positions - the harmonic (h), the pinch (p) and the cork screw (cs) - not the extended cs. That came later.
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:49 PM
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Tom, those exercises are really great, are they directly from your book 1? can book 1 be used for "advanced" players who aren't as well versed in the four finger technique? or is it more of a beginners book to play the bass? thx!
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:43 PM
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Tom, those exercises are really great, are they directly from your book 1? can book 1 be used for "advanced" players who aren't as well versed in the four finger technique? or is it more of a beginners book to play the bass? thx!
The neck things are from the Practical Studies for DB - almost all regular 1,2,4 - 2nd to 3rd year player. The Technical Foundation Studies, Vol. 1 is the one that introduces the open hand or 4 finger technique - more advanced. You can check the web site for descriptions. Thanks!
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:23 PM
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Hi Tom, I wanted to grab a couple of other books from the ASODB website at the same time...Is there any way to pay by credit card online? It will most likely take a bit of time for a cheque to arrive in Ohio from Toronto, Canada.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:54 PM
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Mark knows more about that end but I think he's up in B.C. playing and teaching there at the festival. Email the site next week. There probably is a way.
Tom Gale
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:59 PM
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Hi Tom, I wanted to grab a couple of other books from the ASODB website at the same time...Is there any way to pay by credit card online? It will most likely take a bit of time for a cheque to arrive in Ohio from Toronto, Canada.
Come to think of it, Lemus takes credit cards and also handles all the books.
Tom
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:00 PM
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Make that Lemur Music... My dumb
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:28 PM
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Thanks Tom! I'm going to send in my order ASAP! What book do you recommend to refine the pivot technique in the lower octaves? Rabbath makes sense but the method books are a little bit daunting and overly confusing.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:16 PM
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Thanks Tom! I'm going to send in my order ASAP! What book do you recommend to refine the pivot technique in the lower octaves? Rabbath makes sense but the method books are a little bit daunting and overly confusing.
If you can't make sense of Rabbath, you won't have much luck making sense of pivoting. You can always use pivots instead of shifts on simple Simandl exercises.
The video on doublebassblog.com tells a lot.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:18 PM
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If you can't make sense of Rabbath, you won't have much luck making sense of pivoting. You can always use pivots instead of shifts on simple Simandl exercises.
The video on doublebassblog.com tells a lot.
I understand Rabbath, it's just the books are bloated, I mean 3 books? They're huge and really expensive. I was wondering if there is a more condensed or summarized version.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:53 PM
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I think the 2nd one introduces pivoting. They are nice to have around. I don't go full on with Rabbath, but I do play out of the books.
This is about as condensed as it gets:
http://doublebassblog.org/features/v...irtual-lessons

Just check that out and try it on any etude you have there.
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Old 07-05-2008, 08:45 PM
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I think the 2nd one introduces pivoting. They are nice to have around. I don't go full on with Rabbath, but I do play out of the books.
This is about as condensed as it gets:
http://doublebassblog.org/features/v...irtual-lessons

Just check that out and try it on any etude you have there.
It's just for the 3rd book you need a magnifying glass to make out all the scales, they're so oddly written, in 1 one-octaves etc.
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