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Old 04-16-2007, 04:39 PM
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Hey Everybody,
I'm having some issues with my left hand. It's tense a lot of the time, and I'm trying to figure out how fix this problem. One orchestra teacher at my school, who plays cello as his main instrument, says I should bend my thumb a little bit. He thinks that I'll get carpel tunnel if I don't bend my thumb. I'm not used to playing with my thumb bent, and it is affecting my intonation a lot. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:03 PM
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That's not it. The problem is too much pressure on your thumb. The short answer is either balance the bass better if you are standing or play sitting down which will take all of the pressure off of your thumb.

Better yet contact one of the Dayton Phil bass players:
http://www.daytonphilharmonic.com/orchestraroster
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:35 PM
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Everything John said is right on. I'd like to add some from my recent experiences too..

I think the thumb bent/unbent issue will never be resolved, some like it one way, some the other.

I used to play unbent and i switched to bent after a lesson with a good teacher back in January.. here's why:

For me playing with my thumb bent makes keeping my other fingers curved easier (Fingers curved is a must, but it can be done with a straight thumb too). Also when the thumb is bent, the tip rests on the neck instead of pad. The tip has a lot more nerve endings in it and makes it easier to 'feel' the neck, for shifts and such. I don't it's something you conscious notice, but I think it's helped me.

As far as the tightness in your hand, it's most likely due to not having your bass balanced well. Sitting down may help prevent this but i don't think it's a good 'fix' you should be able to play standing up too. I had problems with thumb pain and a teacher (same as above) informed i've been holding my bass wrong for the last 3.5 years i've been studying bass at a music school. I had my bass really high and i had it lean into me a lot. Setup like this, i NEEDED to use my thumb to hold the bass up.

The solution for me was lowering the bass so the nut is about level with my eyebrow (I'm about 5' 10" i keep my endpin at about 2" or so). Then you can use your left leg behind the lower bout of the bass for more support.

I'm not totally comfortable playing like this yet, but it's a BIG improvement.

If your bass is balanced well you should basically be able to take your thumb off the neck and still have no problem fingering notes.

Hope this helps, let us know if you get your problem worked out

-Jeff
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:10 PM
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They are all right and definitely try contacting Debbie Taylor, she is a beast of a player and a nice woman.

In general you don't want to have any tightness in your hand or pressure on your thumb. Your thumb is just a guide. I use the thumbs up technique for my left hand with the pad of my thumb flat on the back of the neck and the tip facing up instead of sideways. This works best for me but there are many method to left hand playing. In the end you need to find what is comfortable for you as everybody's hand is different.
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