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Old 02-25-2010, 12:48 PM
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6 string neck-through neck for D'Wayne

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Hello again.

This will also be a mini Neck through tutorial as well.

Back story:
D'Wayne had approached me about getting a neck made, for he wanted to build a bass, but was not so sure if he wanted to try building the neck on this one.

Specs:

6 string-

3 piece curly maple w/ purpleheart veneers.

Pau Ferro Fretboard

24 frets, "D" Mother of pearl inlay on the 12th fret.

35" scale


So...... It starts:

After drafting the general dimensions to scale, I had my rough measurements.

I started with the center lam (flatsawn) and the purpleheart laminates, cut to size (I opted to do the headstock without a scarf, so the headstock tilt is 12 degrees).








The laminate was thin enough to cut with a razor blade....








I went ahead, especially since the outer lams were acclimating to my shop conditions at the time, and drew out some of the line, so i could figure the layout.Here you'll see the tilt of the headstock, The thickness of the headstock (I made 5/8", although it would be 1/2", he wants a matching headstock).














Once this was figured out, I waited until the out pieces were ready. This was originally on piece of quarter sawn curly maple (8/4), so i had to cut it in half.










Total width ended up being 4 1/2" wide.








It was then time to glue this up and in my regular fashion, use a decent amount of glue (I'm trying for an endorsement from Franklin, but they ain't having it )







I start by sanding each side that will be accepting glue, with 120 grit on my orbital sander and get it nice and smooth (Did I forget to mention, I had previously ran each piece through my planer, beforehand?)








Now it's time to glue:














Now I don't wrench the hell out of it, but I do give it some tension. I start on one end and with the cabinet clamp, I gradually move it to the right, until it's all clamped up.










After it's sat for 24 hours, I unclamp it, let it sit for another hour or 2 and then run it through the planer until it's squared and close to the depth I want.
I will then start the process of marking some points up. I remark the headstock area, get my headstock to the length that I want (8 1/2" long). Also, I mark out the depth of the truss rod areas, make sure that the nut line is square, with a roofers square on both sides, etc.


























I then mark the proposed taper that i want to use (5/8" @ the nut and 3/4" @ the fb end)










Now time to cut the headstock. I do this on my band saw, then level it after ward. I cut the top first, then cut the bottom.












Then I start the level with a spokeshave, then use my orbital sander. I use a small square to check how level it is.






















Pau Ferro makes it to the party at this point. She needed to be slotted. I had plans to get the circular blade, but have not yet, so this one's Old school.
I did take a tip from LMI the last time i ordered a slotted board, I left some spare before the first fret and this one was plenty long enough.I made sure that one side of this was square, made my fret line from this side only. I used a "Black and decker" workmate, a roofer's square, masking tape, a small piece of 1/4" tick wood (for the roofer's square to sit on), a straight piece of scrap to hold between the square and the saw blade and last but not least a mechanical pencil.
























D'wayne also wants a "D" inlayed (MOP) on the 12th fret, so I will need to find the right font for him. He will be sending the bridge that he'll be using and I have a graphite nut in transit. More to come.

I am also attaching an excel spreadsheet that I use to determine the fret measurements, depending on the scale that you enter.
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:54 PM
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I dig this post, it covers everything. This needs to be referenced EVERYWHERE!
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I'm so excited. My top wood will be delivered next week. I can get started soon on the body once I recieve this neck. Thanks
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:59 PM
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I dig this post, it covers everything. This needs to be referenced EVERYWHERE!
Thanks.
Yeah that and I'm not done yet either. There will be more yet. I actually forgot more info that goes along with the pics, but I wanted more to show, when I put the first post.

DD, when you receive this neck, I want you to continue this thread..
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Very cool. I'm pretty excited about all of this information. I'm working on getting all of the stuff that I need to build my first one right now and this sort of thing is exactly what I needed. I have a pretty good idea of how it will all go together and it's great to see that I'm not too far off of what others are already doing.

You do great work BTW. It's all very clean and nice.
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I will definitely continue with this thread. To give everyone the specs on this build:

35" Scale Singlecut
Maple/red veneer/maple/red veener/maple Neck
Redwood Burl Top
Ash Body
18 mm string spacing
Bartolini or Nordstrand electronics (can't make up my mind)
Black Hardware (hipshot)
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I will definitely continue with this thread. To give everyone the specs on this build:

35" Scale Singlecut
Maple/red veneer/maple/red veener/maple Neck
Redwood Burl Top
Ash Body
18 mm string spacing
Bartolini or Nordstrand electronics (can't make up my mind)
Black Hardware (hipshot)
...its gonna be tight doc.....
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Great build, and tutorial. Lots of little details that help paint the bigger picture.
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Fantastic thread, really informative, and I love the pragmatic approach to getting around the lack of a circular blade in slotting the board.

One thing that does occur to me, as someone who will be following this method, is that we know you're a lefty from the headless build; so working right to left makes sense.

Us righty's will have to flip the fretboard slotting pics and work left to right if we're going to try this at home folks
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Fantastic thread, really informative, and I love the pragmatic approach to getting around the lack of a circular blade in slotting the board.

One thing that does occur to me, as someone who will be following this method, is that we know you're a lefty from the headless build; so working right to left makes sense.

Us righty's will have to flip the fretboard slotting pics and work left to right if we're going to try this at home folks
I look at it as non oriented until it's all glued together (sometimes I even use saws, files..etc, with my right hand too) but I can see what you mean about the right to left vs left to right persuasion.
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I believe D'wayne has agreed on the 12th fret marker. I'll make it out of some figured mother of pearl. I may realign a thing or 2 on it, before I cut it.

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See, the thing about us lefties is that we've all got 'our' way of doing things I think I'd work left to right, as I use a saw with my left hand, so would have the guides clamped to the right of the proposed fret line.
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See, the thing about us lefties is that we've all got 'our' way of doing things
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And now, I present the 12th fret inlay.

After making the general taper mark for the fretboard (2.25" @ the nut and 3.75" @ the 24th fret), I now can make the "D" inlay for the 12th fret.

I start out the a piece of figured MOP blank:







I need to sand out the machine marks that are usually on the blanks, show up as swirls, I start with a 220 sanding pad, to remove the scratches, then use a piece of 0000 steelwool, then I use the stew mac buffing pads, 1500 up to 3200. It's good to polish before cutting it out, you won't have to do it later on a smaller piece, you'll thank yourself later.










Then it's time to glue the piece of paper, for a template and I use Elmer's "Stick glue" to adhere, clamp it up for about 20 minutes.












I first drill with a 1/16" bit on the insides and troublesome areas, so it won't break on me, then cut the outside after. I start with the inner cuts first, before cutting the outside. started with the smallest hold at the bottom, the inner part of the "D", then the top left corner.














I use the top of a can and fill it with water, so I can dissolve the glue and slide the paper off. Whatever container you want to use, is fine. This is the reason why I like using paste, rather than "Duco" cement, which usually you'll use acetone, instead of water. Either way, depends on whichever way that you want to do it.










After cutting, looks like this, then I use the micro files to smooth out uneven edges, etc...










Now it's cut up smooth and the next step, once I taper the FB, will be to inlay it. I'll need to test it on a piece of this Pau Ferro, when I get a chance.



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It's looking good!!!!!
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nice to see you taking custom orders. So when did you stop being alembicplyr?
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nice to see you taking custom orders. So when did you stop being alembicplyr?
Not too long ago, Now i''m a RCplyr
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I'm confused. You say you'll test it on a piece of Pau Ferro, but I see no Pau Ferro!?!?!?

Ha. Sweet tutorial though, I enjoy the picture to word ratio.
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I'm confused. You say you'll test it on a piece of Pau Ferro, but I see no Pau Ferro!?!?!?

Ha. Sweet tutorial though, I enjoy the picture to word ratio.

See OP, fretboard is in there, have not cut a piece off to do so yet.
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