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05-21-2008, 05:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nebraska | | | black wanut fingerboard. yes??
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is black walnut a usable wood for a fingerboard? warmoth is saying it is not for some reason. my school has some huge slabs of walnut that i could make an entier bass out of one unbroken peice. | 
05-21-2008, 07:16 PM
|  | marvellous | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Ireland | | | Of course its suitable! why not? if i'm missing something someone tell me | 
05-22-2008, 12:10 AM
|  | Registered User Builder: Jon's Basses | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Worth, TX | | | Possible, but not the best choice. There are more inexpensive, more dense woods that would make a better choice. Basically, it just boils down to availability. Black Walnut is relatively uncommon in my area. | 
05-22-2008, 06:12 AM
| | Registered User Custom builder | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Novato California | | | Black walnut would not be my first choice for a fret board, but would be serviceable none the less. If you have a light enough touch anything will do. The problems with softer woods run from early wear to frets that loosen in the kerf. Hard close grained woods are preferred for this task, and I mean hard in the sense of "hard" not "hardwood". Balsa is a "hardwood".
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05-22-2008, 08:12 AM
| | TalkBass Pro Owner: FBB Bass Works | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Maryland | | | I wouldn't use it, personally. Softer woods also compress around the fret tang under pressure. It's such a structurally/functionally important part of the bass. You can get jatoba or purpleheart for cheap, use some of that.
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05-22-2008, 12:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nebraska | | | ok. was looking for a nice alternative fingerboard. don't have the cash for ebony of rose wood. maple is awsome, just don't want to do all my fb in maple. what are some accetable fingerboard woods? | 
05-22-2008, 05:06 PM
|  | Registered User Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jordan_frerichs what are some acceptable fingerboard woods? | Jatoba and purpleheart have already been mentioned...
As an aside, rosewood isn't expensive, per se... at least the East Indian stuff isn't too bad... but here are a few alternatives (can't speak for cost on all of these, although I've used several bloodwood fingerboards, and haven't found it to be too spendy):
Pau Ferro
Wenge
Bloodwood
Cocobolo
Bocote
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05-22-2008, 06:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: sydney, australia | | | fender had an elite range in the 80's where they replaced maple with walnut. they had some 1pc walnut necks. i wouldnt use it as its not that hard, but it can be used. | 
05-22-2008, 07:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lima - Perú | | | iVe seen purpleheard used as fretboards a few times and I think that is a cheap wood there so you wouldnt have any problem getting a piece large enough for a fretboard.
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Originally Posted by Nelson Guitars Nothing like standing in a pile of fresh wood shavings you just made. | | 
05-22-2008, 08:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nebraska | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SDB Guitars Jatoba and purpleheart have already been mentioned...
As an aside, rosewood isn't expensive, per se... at least the East Indian stuff isn't too bad... but here are a few alternatives (can't speak for cost on all of these, although I've used several bloodwood fingerboards, and haven't found it to be too spendy):
Pau Ferro
Wenge
Bloodwood
Cocobolo
Bocote | big fan of the bloodwood  | 
05-22-2008, 09:58 PM
|  | Registered User Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jordan_frerichs big fan of the bloodwood  | Yeah, I have a ton of that stuff hanging around... well, not actuall a ton, but 2 or 3 good long boards at least 8" wide... Probably around 18 board feet... also 6 or 8 fingerboard blanks. So, one may notice a trend in my next several "stock" instruments... 
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05-22-2008, 11:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lima - Perú | | Funny that woods like bloodwood and purpleheart are exported from Perú and its close to a big ZERO the chances that I have to find those at Lima. 
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05-23-2008, 09:04 AM
|  | Registered User Owner and builder Clementbass | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Central Florida | | Quote:
Originally Posted by eleonn Funny that woods like bloodwood and purpleheart are exported from Perú and its close to a big ZERO the chances that I have to find those at Lima.  | Well that sucks.
I too am a big fan of Bloodwood. Swamp Ash bodies with hard Maple necks and bloodwood fingerboards are one of my favorite combos. | 
05-23-2008, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nebraska | | Quote:
Originally Posted by SDB Guitars Yeah, I have a ton of that stuff hanging around... well, not actuall a ton, but 2 or 3 good long boards at least 8" wide... Probably around 18 board feet... also 6 or 8 fingerboard blanks. So, one may notice a trend in my next several "stock" instruments...  | cool. i will be checking around ebay, but if i don't find something i like, would you be interested in selling a bloodwood board? think i might do a 32" scale with block inlays of pearl, abolone, black ebony, or some nice figured maple | 
05-23-2008, 11:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Virginia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tjclem Well that sucks.
I too am a big fan of Bloodwood. Swamp Ash bodies with hard Maple necks and bloodwood fingerboards are one of my favorite combos. | yummy!
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05-23-2008, 02:27 PM
| | Registered User Custom builder | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Novato California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by eleonn Funny that woods like bloodwood and purpleheart are exported from Perú and its close to a big ZERO the chances that I have to find those at Lima.  | Grab your ax and head for the hills!
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06-21-2008, 03:41 PM
| | | | Fretless alternative? Are there any alternatives to ebony and rosewood that are local and more abundant, but still hard enough to be fretless? | 
06-21-2008, 04:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gladstone, QLD, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonsbasses Possible, but not the best choice. There are more inexpensive, more dense woods that would make a better choice. Basically, it just boils down to availability. Black Walnut is relatively uncommon in my area. | growing up in western PA...black walnut is everywhere there...it's not an availability thing...there are many much scarcer woods being employed for fingerboards.
for a good domestic wood fingerboard, look at what steve wishnevsky is doing (learn from wish? what???)...yes...use black locust...that stuff is TOUGH! | 
06-21-2008, 05:47 PM
|  | so far, so good | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: US-NY-NYC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzhole251 Are there any alternatives to ebony and rosewood that are local and more abundant, but still hard enough to be fretless? | There was thread a while back that dealt with trying to build using North American domestic woods only. Fretboards were discussed. A search on "domestic fretboard" or "domestic fingerboard" will hopefully turn it up.
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06-21-2008, 10:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hastings, NE | | | try doing a search on"walnut fingerboard" I found it used on mandolins,banjos,dulcimers,& acoustic guitars.I have used it on 2 bass guitars,with no problems yet (2 years).All I can say is glue them down & finish the fingerboard. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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