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03-25-2011, 04:55 PM
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Soon, I am going to put together another Carvin kit bass. This time the new B50, 5 string. It will be passive, VVT, not active.
What I prefer is an oil finish on the body and also on a maple fretted neck. So, an interesting wood type would be cool, but not altogether necessary.
I am kicking around the idea of using walnut for the body, but the bass will probably end up over 10 lbs, I would think. Alder is good, though generally not as pretty, clear coated. A denser wood such as walnut will probably make the B string ring clearer and tightened compared to alder, and give the upper highs a clearer slap tone.
So, I have aesthetic and tonal concerns, as well as overall weight to consider.
Suggestions are appreciated. | 
03-25-2011, 05:10 PM
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03-25-2011, 05:12 PM
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03-25-2011, 05:17 PM
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03-25-2011, 05:18 PM
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I forgot to add Carvin's wood selections are:
Maple Neck/Alder Body
Maple Neck/Swamp Ash Body
Maple Neck/Koa Body
Maple Neck/Mahogany Body
Koa Neck & Body
Mahogany Neck & Body
Walnut Neck & Body
Maple Neck & Body
Maple Neck & Walnut Body | 
03-25-2011, 05:26 PM
| | Banned Endorsing Artist: MLaghus Custom Basses | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boca Raton - FL | | | Maple Neck/Alder Body - Not pretty
Maple Neck/Swamp Ash Body - Good option if it's truly light
Maple Neck/Koa Body - Very pretty, can be heavy
Maple Neck/Mahogany Body - Heavy
Koa Neck & Body - Koa Neck? Never seen it...
Mahogany Neck & Body - Nah
Walnut Neck & Body - Heavy
Maple Neck & Body - If it's hard maple body they are crazy
Maple Neck & Walnut Body - Heavy | 
03-25-2011, 05:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin | | | I once put together an B5 kit with a swamp ash body and active electronics from Carvin. The B string was very weak sounding. I am shy about using swamp ash again for this reason. Maybe it was a fluke, I don't know, but it was pretty.
One thing I don't want is a boat anchor beauty. Maybe good looks and good sound mean heavy? | 
03-25-2011, 05:45 PM
| | Banned Endorsing Artist: MLaghus Custom Basses | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boca Raton - FL | | | I doubt the weak B string had anything to do with the body wood.
My Dingwall ABI has a soft-maple body and sounds great. That's why I first mentioned it. | 
03-25-2011, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LAG Soon, I am going to put together another Carvin kit bass. This time the new B50, 5 string. It will be passive, VVT, not active.
What I prefer is an oil finish on the body and also on a maple fretted neck. So, an interesting wood type would be cool, but not altogether necessary.
I am kicking around the idea of using walnut for the body, but the bass will probably end up over 10 lbs, I would think. Alder is good, though generally not as pretty, clear coated. A denser wood such as walnut will probably make the B string ring clearer and tightened compared to alder, and give the upper highs a clearer slap tone.
So, I have aesthetic and tonal concerns, as well as overall weight to consider.
Suggestions are appreciated. | Unless something has changed, Carvin only offers their bass kits with Alder bodies. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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03-25-2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by allexcosta I doubt the weak B string had anything to do with the body wood.
My Dingwall ABI has a soft-maple body and sounds great. That's why I first mentioned it. | That bass (B5) was very light, in fact I asked for a light piece of swamp ash and that is what they gave me.
Is your Dingwall a heavy weight bass? | 
03-25-2011, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOldHarry Unless something has changed, Carvin only offers their bass kits with Alder bodies. Correct me if I'm wrong. | This wood I listed above is from the BK50 order page on the Carvin site. | 
03-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LAG Is your Dingwall a heavy weight bass? | Not at all. Very light at 8 pounds, but remember it has a 37" B string... | 
03-25-2011, 06:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | | Check out the Carvin B40/B50 thread over in the Basses section, there's a few reviews over there for these (albeit completed by Carvin) but I think all of them are either alder or swamp ash. I haven't seen any exotic ones yet. KayCee has a review of one in swamp ash, and even then it was about 9 and a half pounds, so I'd be leary of a heavy body wood.
Good news is that these are supposed to have a much better B string than the older model, though I'm not sure how they did it without changing the scale length.
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03-25-2011, 07:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin | | | I have read those threads here and at the Carvin BBs.
If a lighter weight 5 string bass is desired, it looks like one has to stay away from anything except alder and swamp ash, with the Carvin B50 or SB5000. Some get a bit heavy with the standard alder wood. | 
03-25-2011, 07:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | | Yeah, it seems like the SB5000 is even heavier than the B50. Although I would personally LOVE to see one of these in walnut or mahogany, or koa... koa personally makes me drool.
I've been considering one of these myself since the new body style came out, so I'd love to see a build thread/ finished pictures when you're done.
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04-23-2011, 01:37 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin | | | I have ordered a B50K with an alder body. Probably wont be the best looking wood, though tone wise it is all good for myself.
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05-01-2011, 02:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pin_head_47 Yeah, it seems like the SB5000 is even heavier than the B50. Although I would personally LOVE to see one of these in walnut or mahogany, or koa... koa personally makes me drool.
I've been considering one of these myself since the new body style came out, so I'd love to see a build thread/ finished pictures when you're done. | I'll post pics during the build process. I ordered an alder body, maple neck with rosewood board w/no dots. SB headstock. The wait is on. | 
05-01-2011, 03:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Center of The Commonwealth | | | Other than the weight, I think African mahogany would be a good fit.
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05-01-2011, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by type C basses Other than the weight, I think African mahogany would be a good fit. |
Good point. I'll stick with alder. | 
05-27-2011, 03:19 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wisconsin | | | Got a call today frpm Carvin, my B50 kit is ready to ship. Exactly 5 weeks to date from my order.
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