Build II - Paradox MJ5 - New design! - Page 46

Prostheta · #**901** 12-23-2012, 03:18 PM

I wouldn't say that a single letter doesn't say much. Many of the major "brands" we see around us capitalise on that (no joke intended). Stock fonts will dilute how many logos present themselves, so something hand drawn or left of centre will stick better. I saw a great logo in an inksplat once, although not a Rorschach test thankfully.

I'll leave this here then.

Logos or marks are an awkward distillation of identity squeezed into a dense format which is devoid of detail yet specific enough to be unique. I still haven't found one that I would be happy releasing my own work under which is painful since I would like to unify my own work also.

You could quite happily develop that existing logo mark. Draw it out many times in different ways, exaggerating aspects you can see "in" each generation and see where it takes you. It is even possible to mutate printouts of stock fonts to instill your own hand in there.

Right. Red wine has spoken its bit. The Bourne Legacy was rubbish. Hopefully this post will be more positive than that waste of time.

roberthabraken · #**902** 12-23-2012, 03:29 PM

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I'll leave this here then.

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How much respect I do have for the great luthier Carl Thompson, so much I dislike his logo. Both the way of application, the design and execution are the worst I've seen around, sorry for that Carl.

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I still haven't found one that I would be happy releasing my own work under which is painful since I would like to unify my own work also.

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That totally describes my situation. Why is this so hard? Even harder than designing a complete bass?

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Right. Red wine has spoken its bit. The Bourne Legacy was rubbish. Hopefully this post will be more positive than that waste of time.

I like your epistels, your considerations about the topic. Keeps the discussion going

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roberthabraken · #**903** 12-23-2012, 03:31 PM

What about:

(I know it's a bit small this way, let alone the guitars part..)

Prostheta · #**904** 12-23-2012, 03:36 PM

I'll change my MO.

"Yes".

HaMMerHeD · #**905** 12-23-2012, 03:56 PM

I keep thinking something like this:

Where the Habraken is subtly bent to follow the edge of the headstock

roberthabraken · #**906** 12-23-2012, 04:00 PM

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I'll change my MO.

"Yes".

What's a mo? And what do you agree there? Do you like the suggestion?

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I keep thinking something like this: (...)

Where the Habraken is subtly bent to follow the edge of the headstock

Thought about that (although not bent), but this way, the logo would be upside down when the bass hangs on the wall...

MarkA · #**907** 12-23-2012, 04:19 PM

I too found it -- and the movie review -- entertaining. The advice seems sound, too.

roberthabraken · #**908** 12-23-2012, 04:24 PM

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I too found it -- and the movie review -- entertaining. The advice seems sound, too.

+1

So Prostheta, don't

pilotjones · #**909** 12-23-2012, 07:12 PM

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What about:

(I know it's a bit small this way, let alone the guitars part..)

I can definitely see that looking nice on the red, especially if done in silver or gold. The fineness of the writing would work with the brightness, which might otherwise be gaudy. I'd enlarge the "guitars" just a bit.

Hopkins · #**910** 12-23-2012, 08:40 PM

Just for my own curiosity. What would an 'RH' look like in the full name font.

pilotjones · #**911** 12-23-2012, 08:51 PM

Or, "rh".

Ol'Bass'ead · #**912** 12-23-2012, 10:46 PM

OK. Ill chime in again. The Rh logo needs to be centered in the top of the headstock. I really like the Habraken on the pick guard-but I would back fill it in red to match the bass. And....I would make a truss rod cover and put the MJ5 on there.

roberthabraken · #**913** 12-24-2012, 12:57 AM

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I can definitely see that looking nice on the red, especially if done in silver or gold. The fineness of the writing would work with the brightness, which might otherwise be gaudy. I'd enlarge the "guitars" just a bit.

Thanks, I agree. And I like it too. So this is one option, using a decal.

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Just for my own curiosity. What would an 'RH' look like in the full name font.

Not that great, I must say the font looks better as a written name / word, not so much for initials:

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OK. Ill chime in again. The Rh logo needs to be centered in the top of the headstock. I really like the Habraken on the pick guard-but I would back fill it in red to match the bass. And....I would make a truss rod cover and put the MJ5 on there.

Wow... that's a great idea! Everytime I think I made up my mind (I'll explain that later) you guys blow me away with an other great option. I should say though, the model isn't called MJ5 anymore, as MJ5 stands for Multi-scale Jazz /w 5 strings. Since I dropped the multi-scale part of the design, I'm left with J5 (and that's bit humdrum isn't it?).

What I actually thought this morning, is I'd best go with a truss rod cover with either an H on it, or my full name (engraved). I can then leave the bass and headstock clean. I could either make the cover out of Macassar Ebony or from the pickguard material, but inverted (so the black layer is exposed, having a pearl outline visible).

This could still be combined with your idea though, I think it's time to do some more research and tests

R Baer · #**914** 12-24-2012, 01:35 AM

Your full last name looks too long to try to put on a headstock, IMO. Makes it too hard to recognize from a distance. How about something more like this? Would make for a much easier inlay.

roberthabraken · #**915** 12-24-2012, 01:46 AM

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Your full last name it too long to try to put on a headstock, IMO. Makes it too hard to recognize from a distance. How about something more like this? Would make for a much easier inlay.

Looks cool, what font is that?

I am going to do a test print of the full name in the correct size and see if I like it.

Prostheta · #**916** 12-24-2012, 02:18 AM

Much more forgiving to inlay, also!

millsbass5 · #**917** 12-24-2012, 02:38 AM

I would go with the pearl, or even a clear 'guard. That way, everyone can see all of your work. Also, I think a see-thru grey (think tinted windows on a car) 'guard would add a really classy,unique look to it. I've never seen a 'guard like that. I think it'd be really cool.

R Baer · #**918** 12-24-2012, 02:45 AM

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Looks cool, what font is that?

I am going to do a test print of the full name in the correct size and see if I like it.

It's a font called ANKENY. I put it in Illustrator and converted it to outlines, so it could be manipulated, but it looks pretty cool as is. Keeping it just HG (Habraken Guitars) lets you make it a lot bigger, so it can been seen from farther away and makes it more visually recognizable, IMO.
Peace

roberthabraken · #**919** 12-24-2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by millsbass5

I would go with the pearl, or even a clear 'guard. That way, everyone can see all of your work. Also, I think a see-thru grey (think tinted windows on a car) 'guard would add a really classy,unique look to it. I've never seen a 'guard like that. I think it'd be really cool.

Sorry, but the pickguard is already final. I was talking about using the same material for for the truss rod cover, but backwards, so the black side is up, with a pearl outline / stroke.

roberthabraken · #**920** 12-24-2012, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by R Baer

It's a font called ANKENY. I put it in Illustrator and converted it to outlines, so it could be manipulated, but it loos pretty cool as is. Keeping it just HG (Habraken Guitars) lets you make it a lot bigger, so it can been seen from farther away and makes it more visually recognizable, IMO.
Peace

Thanks, I will take a look. HG on itself didn't cross my mind.. I also will take a look at RH as a symbol.