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Old 07-23-2007, 12:45 PM
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Converting bolt on to set neck?

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Is it possible to make a bolt on neck a set neck? Would it be worth it?
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by set neck do you mean neck-thru?
If so, its impossible
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:56 PM
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by set neck do you mean neck-thru?
If so, its impossible
No, by set neck i mean 'set-neck' where the neck is glued in place. I know mainly its done on guitars, but i've seen a bass or two with it done.
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oh ok - I havent seen that before.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:00 PM
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oh ok - I havent seen that before.
No problemo, its mainly done on guitars. I thought at first that it would never work on bass, but then i saw a bass (can't remember which one) with a set neck, and i would like to have one.
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My Ken Lawrence Brase is actually a set-neck.

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Rickenbackers are set-necks.

Some Gibson Thunderbirds are set-necks.

I'm doing one right now.
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I use set necks in my single cut basses.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:09 PM
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Rickenbackers are set-necks.

Some Gibson Thunderbirds are set-necks.

I'm doing one right now.
How would someone do such a thing?

help me i wanna convert my bolt on to a set neck!
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I guess it depends on what you want to achieve with the set neck. It would probably be possible to put a bunch of glue in the pocket and clamp the neck in place until it sets, but it would never work quite as well as a bolt on because of the design. If the only reason is because you want to have a set-neck, I would recomend buying a cheap one, I have a rogue vb-100 that is definetely worth the money, and is a set neck.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:12 PM
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I guess it depends on what you want to achieve with the set neck. It would probably be possible to put a bunch of glue in the pocket and clamp the neck in place until it sets, but it would never work quite as well as a bolt on because of the design. If the only reason is because you want to have a set-neck, I would recomend buying a cheap one, I have a rogue vb-100 that is definetely worth the money, and is a set neck.
That is one of the reasons, but i have an old ibanez bass lying around i don't use much, it already has a small crack in the neck pocket, so, if im going to glue that up, why not go all out and make it a set neck?
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:27 PM
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why not go all out and make it a set neck?
most set neck joints are designed to have higher surface area contact, unlike bolt ons which can have lower contact as long as the bolts are tightened securly. Without that extra surace contact, there may be insuficent gluing area to counteract the string tension. So you risk having the bass fold up at some random point, with minimal reward for taking that risk.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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most set neck joints are designed to have higher surface area contact, unlike bolt ons which can have lower contact as long as the bolts are tightened securly. Without that extra surace contact, there may be insuficent gluing area to counteract the string tension. So you risk having the bass fold up at some random point, with minimal reward for taking that risk.
awww darnit.

So, then i guess it isn't all that worth it then?
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So, then i guess it isn't all that worth it then?
IMO, probably not.
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Rickenbackers are set-necks.

Some Gibson Thunderbirds are set-necks.
Both are neck through, not set neck.
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Both are neck through, not set neck.
The Gibson studio thunderbird series are set neck.
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So you risk having the bass fold up at some random point, with minimal reward for taking that risk.
That would probably be the funniest thing I would ever see.
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That would probably be the funniest thing I would ever see.
My brothers guitar did that once. He being the idiot he is, started unscrewing the bolts on the back without taking to strings off. He got the front two off then the neck folded. He is 16 and he actually screamed. It was very funny. Now i don't have a guitar to mess around on
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My brothers guitar did that once. He being the idiot he is, started unscrewing the bolts on the back without taking to strings off. He got the front two off then the neck folded. He is 16 and he actually screamed. It was very funny. Now i don't have a guitar to mess around on
I can just imagine the w.t.f.'s going around the crowd if someones instrument did that mid-song.
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:08 PM
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the Rick Turner Model 1 is a set neck instrument.. . . . if anyone has one to give away, I will send you my address. I need a cold shower every time I even look at a photo of this thing. He makes basses with this same design too.

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