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06-23-2004, 01:39 AM
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This is kind'a weird, but just to clarify some issues that may come up in the next few years: I do not copy JP basses! 
Background:
JP's latest annoucements, the Naļa body and the blend-free electronics, are so intimately close to what I have been scetching on the last few years! It would seem as Jean-Philippe Ferreira of JP Basses and myself carry parts of the same brain!!! Even the JP pickup resembles some of my earlier thoughts (but is much more elegant, I give you that), and I expect you remember my flair for necks, laminated parallel to the fingerboard, like JP's old J-neck.
Jean-Philippe has just resently become a father, after building up his enterprise and shop, with an understanding wife! 
Dispite my higher age, I have not achieved that level yet (except fatherhood  ). I just sit on a huge pile of ideas, accumulated over 20+ years, my shop is my kitchen and bedroom (not allways appreciated  ), and my output is max 2 basses per year.
Bottom line:
just remember, when you see a bass of mine, or JP, that I do not copy JP basses!
nor does JP copy SUBurban.
Jean-Phillippe: keep up the good work!  
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06-23-2004, 02:11 AM
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Proprietor, Helland Musikk Teknologi | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norway | | | Cool. So when can we se more of your basses then?
Hallgeir |
06-23-2004, 07:30 AM
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06-23-2004, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by McHack I'll only add that, scandanavian woman are HOT! | The most important thing in this thread. |
06-23-2004, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by elros Cool. So when can we se more of your basses then?
Hallgeir | Eventually: yes.
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06-23-2004, 10:03 AM
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did anyone said you were copying???
Peace,
JP
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06-23-2004, 10:24 AM
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Proprietor, Helland Musikk Teknologi | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norway | | | I'm sure this guy has something fantastic in the works.
BTW aren't you Urban from the CB list?
Hallgeir |
06-23-2004, 11:10 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | Multi lam necks parallel to the fretboard? You're all rippin off Linc Luthier. 
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06-24-2004, 04:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: lower mid Sweden | | | JP: no, not yet...
Mon: no, not Linc. Actually, I got the idea from the automotive business, but I have learned that the method was used centuries ago by some luthiers. There is actullay grounds for questioning Lincs patent - well, had been outside US and Asia....
elros: yes, though I'm currently unsubscibing. I will be back in August - which goes for TB as well. I'm doing this last session, then I'm off.
See ya'all in August!
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06-25-2004, 01:35 PM
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Hey guys,
You're all ripping off Linc!!! He obtained a patent because his process was unique and no one was doing it at the time. That is patent infringement. Law suits could follow, although Linc is not an aggressive personality type. Hope you consider how you are gonna make it different..... |
06-27-2004, 06:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Narangba, QLD, Australia | | | Its not really. Linc's patent is fairly defined and only applies in the US (possibly one or two more states). This means they, by the nature of their location, have a perfectly good work-around for the patent because it's not relevant in their countries.
I know JP's already aware of this and has ensured that, at least while he was making the J-neck, he wasn't infringing the patent. I'm also fairly confident that Sub is also aware, he understands the grounds he has for contesting it anyway.
Patents do not automatically guarantee complete exclusivity of usage, a significant portion of the biotechnology industry is concerned with gaining appropriate protection of Intellectual Property and working around competitors' protection.
Sub, I'm looking forward to seeing more of your stuff, especially if you're going to have some similarities to JP's work, because what he does is incredible.
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06-27-2004, 07:54 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL | | I never understand these discussions... Ive seen many basses that borrow from another and no one says a word, then I see something similar and everyone thinks copy... It just seems that people are very subjective with thier sense of originality depending on what brand or friend is being copied or copying.  ...just my .02. |
06-27-2004, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveAceofBass Hey guys,
You're all ripping off Linc!!! He obtained a patent because his process was unique and no one was doing it at the time. That is patent infringement. Law suits could follow, although Linc is not an aggressive personality type. Hope you consider how you are gonna make it different..... | Dave, did you ever read the patent?? I did numerous time. The patent is much more than horizontal lamination.
We're not ripping Linc neither infringing his patent at all. Also Sub and I got the idea from mechanic industry rather than from Linc.
Horizontal lamination just comes from simple physics.
Peace,
JP
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06-28-2004, 08:43 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Southern Massachusetts | | I just wanna ensure you all that when I made my comment, my tongue was poking thru my cheek. 
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06-28-2004, 06:58 PM
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07-01-2004, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JP Basses Dave, did you ever read the patent?? I did numerous time. The patent is much more than horizontal lamination.
We're not ripping Linc neither infringing his patent at all. Also Sub and I got the idea from mechanic industry rather than from Linc.
Horizontal lamination just comes from simple physics.
Peace,
JP | I didn't think you were ripping off Linc's patent, but maybe some of the other people were. Besides you're in Europe right? How do you look at a patent? Is that available on the internet?
Sincerely,
Dave |
07-01-2004, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveAceofBass I didn't think you were ripping off Linc's patent, but maybe some of the other people were. Besides you're in Europe right? How do you look at a patent? Is that available on the internet?
Sincerely,
Dave | linc patent
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07-01-2004, 09:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Narangba, QLD, Australia | | I actually prefer viewing them through the EPO. Go to Number Search
Then stick in the publication number (found by clicking JP's link), making sure to change it into the format they want (area code is US if you didn't know). Click the 'include family' box as well, so that you find any that are directly related (ie same patents in other countries).
I've found the USPTO is good for searching but the reading format that the EPO use is a lot easier to read. And its also easier to find the search report, which in this case says its there but isn't when you look for it.
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