Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Luthier's Corner
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Luthier's Corner Discussion on instrument building, repair, and materials.


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-20-2013, 02:59 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
First build 5 string neck thru

Hey guys, long time reader here
I was wondering what you guys would recommend for a neck wood on my next build. I want to do a double cut neck thru based around a Carvin neck blank and was having trouble deciding what neck wood to go with, as well as a body wood to compliment this
right now my options are mahogany, walnut and maple for the neck, all solid, with a mahogany or solid flame maple body
I was hoping to get a nice organic tone, warm while still being clear for chordal work.
It'll be a 34inch scale tuned e-c , 24 fret
any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks
-Liam
  #2  
Old 03-21-2013, 06:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: MI
Any of those neck woods would be fine. I'd personally use mahogany or walnut. I don't know if I've ever seen a solid flame maple body, I think people usually just put a thin layer (~1/4" or so) of it on top. A mahogany neck and body with a flame maple top would look good.
  #3  
Old 03-21-2013, 07:11 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
I just finished a build using a flamed maple /ebony Carvin neck thru. I used Alder for the body and a 3/8" quilted maple cap . It worked well and provides a wide sonic range.

I also finished up a all walnut project , it is a bit brighter , although due to the semi hollow design still has a good amount of fullness.


Mahogany is a good choice , I'm working on a fretless now with it. It strikes the middle ground between walnut an maple.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2013-02-12_06-58-56_467.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	158.1 KB
ID:	326077  
  #4  
Old 03-21-2013, 07:31 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by lbridenstine View Post
Any of those neck woods would be fine. I'd personally use mahogany or walnut. I don't know if I've ever seen a solid flame maple body, I think people usually just put a thin layer (~1/4" or so) of it on top. A mahogany neck and body with a flame maple top would look good.
I agree. Both woods are easy to find, relatively inexpensive, and look nice together.

FWIW, here's my first build, from many years ago. Solid flamed maple body wings with a mahogany through neck



More photos here:
The official "Show your basses" thread part 18!
__________________
---------Music nerd, bass geek, coffee junkie--------
- @davenportbass - thegreatmistake.bandcamp.com -
  #5  
Old 03-21-2013, 07:58 AM
Lonnybass's Avatar
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: Pedulla Basses
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Minneapolis by way of Chicago
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by liam5206 View Post
Hey guys, long time reader here
I was wondering what you guys would recommend for a neck wood on my next build. I want to do a double cut neck thru based around a Carvin neck blank and was having trouble deciding what neck wood to go with, as well as a body wood to compliment this
right now my options are mahogany, walnut and maple for the neck, all solid, with a mahogany or solid flame maple body
I was hoping to get a nice organic tone, warm while still being clear for chordal work.
It'll be a 34inch scale tuned e-c , 24 fret
any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks
-Liam
Liam-

The Carvin necks are great for building yourself a nice custom instrument without getting into some of the complexities of neck building. I built my first bass this way around 11 or 12 years ago (can't believe it's been that long!) before I felt good enough about my skills to take on neck work.

One recommendation I have for you is to try and go for a multi-laminated Carvin neck rather than one made from a single block. I think this might help you avoid some potential dead spots - especially important since you're doing a neck through and don't have the option of replacing a neck like if you had a bolt-on.

Lonnybass
__________________
Nearsighted monitor engineer: "What the hell is an Anemic F-1X?'"
  #6  
Old 03-21-2013, 08:45 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonnybass View Post
Liam-

One recommendation I have for you is to try and go for a multi-laminated Carvin neck rather than one made from a single block. I think this might help you avoid some potential dead spots - especially important since you're doing a neck through and don't have the option of replacing a neck like if you had a bolt-on.

Lonnybass
+1
__________________
---------Music nerd, bass geek, coffee junkie--------
- @davenportbass - thegreatmistake.bandcamp.com -
  #7  
Old 03-21-2013, 08:58 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Norman, OK
Spector does a lot of solid curly maple bodies, and i believe smith does too. Weight can be a problem.
__________________
Heretic Custom [heretic-cg.us]
  #8  
Old 03-21-2013, 09:07 AM
Rickett Customs's Avatar
Don't ask me why, I don't know.......

Luthier: Rickett Customs
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Southern Maryland
Send a message via AIM to Rickett Customs
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD View Post
Spector does a lot of solid curly maple bodies, and i believe smith does too. Weight can be a problem.
Spector and smith do thin bodies and they still end up at the 9lb-10lb range.
__________________
/Jason

TheLowEndLife Forum

Spector Tonedump
RickettNation®
Bassist: Kirk McEwen Band, Backstage Pass
Spector club #66 (ToneDump Founder)
Mo' Bass #014 **RIP Maddrackkett**
  #9  
Old 03-21-2013, 09:33 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Thanks for all the advice guys.
what wood a walnut neck through sound like?
I personally love mahogany but worry that it might not be strong enough to be a full neck thru relative to maple and walnut.
id like to do a solid curly maple body just for the simplicity of it, and i also have access to decent flame maple boards and GREAT prices.
I know Pedulla does solid flame maple basses, but i suspect their balanced tone has more to do with the preamp than anything else. I do plan on using Barts with a pre

Wil_Couch how does that bass sound and play?
  #10  
Old 03-21-2013, 10:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by liam5206 View Post
Thanks for all the advice guys.
what wood a walnut neck through sound like?
I personally love mahogany but worry that it might not be strong enough to be a full neck thru relative to maple and walnut.
id like to do a solid curly maple body just for the simplicity of it, and i also have access to decent flame maple boards and GREAT prices.
I know Pedulla does solid flame maple basses, but i suspect their balanced tone has more to do with the preamp than anything else. I do plan on using Barts with a pre

Wil_Couch how does that bass sound and play?
I wouldn't worry about the mahogany being strong enough. It is. I've built a couple of 5rs with mahogany through necks. If you're really worried, laminate it with a couple wenge, walnut, or maple stringers.

I used a single truss rod, and left the neck a bit on the beefy side.

That bass plays and sounds awesome, IMO. It's really the only bass I've used over the past 15+ years. Take a listen HERE. The songs were (I believe) all recorded on the neck pup. The video is the bridge pup.
__________________
---------Music nerd, bass geek, coffee junkie--------
- @davenportbass - thegreatmistake.bandcamp.com -
  #11  
Old 03-21-2013, 10:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
While the neck material will have a minor effect on tone, it effects sustain more than tone on an electric instrument. Pup placement and style are much more influential
__________________
---------Music nerd, bass geek, coffee junkie--------
- @davenportbass - thegreatmistake.bandcamp.com -
  #12  
Old 03-21-2013, 01:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Thank you guys so much for all the help.
I'm open to suggestions of course, I like the idea of mahogany with curly maple.
It's hard to explain, but I guess I'm looking for a combo of Damian Erskines " Catacomb" skjold and an MVP 5 by pedulla
Any suggestions other than what was mentioned above?
Again thanks so much guys
  #13  
Old 03-21-2013, 01:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Carbon rods are a very effective method for getting some extra support and stiffness in your neck, especially if you prefer a thinner neck. Most luthiery supply outlets have them.
__________________
---------Music nerd, bass geek, coffee junkie--------
- @davenportbass - thegreatmistake.bandcamp.com -
  #14  
Old 03-21-2013, 04:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
I am sure Carbon rods would be definately the way to go, if i was building my neck. Im a little short on experience for that

Would maple on maple be too bright?
I like the idea of solid maple, not as much the weight
  #15  
Old 03-21-2013, 11:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Squierville, California
Regarding the tone of a neck-through instrument, the wood used for the neck has a major influence on tone. Many companies, like Alembic, use laminates in the neck to add more character to the tone. In a neck-through bass the body will have much less of an influence on the tone. You can read what Alembic has to say about neck wood here and about body wood here. This page has a many nice photos of various wood options.
  #16  
Old 03-22-2013, 09:22 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Norman, OK
Laminates in the neck are for strength and appearance.
__________________
Heretic Custom [heretic-cg.us]
  #17  
Old 03-22-2013, 11:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Squierville, California
Read Alembic's page. They describe different tonal attributes for different types of laminates.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Visit TalkBass on Facebook   Download our iOS app   Download our Android app

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:34 AM.




© 2012 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar too? Visit TalkGuitar.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.