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Old 04-11-2008, 10:57 AM
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I made myself a body for that fretless Westone neck I have

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And despite the fact that that Westone neck doesn't have a Fender-like headstock, it doesn't look out of place at all.


The body is five pieces of Pine and I'll be finishing it in translucent red.

and let's be honest it looks a LOT better than what I innitially had in mind.
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hmm pine?
Is pine a tone wood?
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let's be honest it looks a LOT better than what I innitially had in mind.
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hmm pine?
Is pine a tone wood?
Pine is related to Spruce so I guess it should be a tone wood.
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hmm pine?
Is pine a tone wood?
spoken in jest - right?

since tonewood is specific terminology for acoustic instruments, either you are jesting or you are uninformed


Blazer - nice job for a first body! and DEFINITEY 100000% nicer design than your first concept


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Old 04-11-2008, 12:21 PM
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Blazer - nice job for a first body! and DEFINITEY 100000% nicer design than your first concept
Yeah, ten years of experience as a professional luthier really paid off doing my "First body"
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"ten years of experience as a professional luthier"
ik hoop dat dit een grapje is?
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ik hoop dat dit een grapje is?
either a joke or hidden secret - definitely not in Blazer's profile so who would have guessed, eh?

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Old 04-11-2008, 01:59 PM
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ik hoop dat dit een grapje is?
Ik hoop dat die opmerking een grapje is.




Waarom zou ik grappen maken over mijn werk?

De body zoals je hem nu ziet is nog LANG NIET AF.
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I assume you'll be going solid color on this one?
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:16 PM
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Ik hoop dat die opmerking een grapje is.
De body zoals je hem nu ziet is nog LANG NIET AF.
gast, volgens mij begrijp je me niet helemaal..
geen kritiek op je basbody, ziet er tot nu toe best ok uit.
maar ik geloof niet dat jij het kan rechtvaardigen om jezelf de titel "gitaarbouwer met 10 jaar ervaring" aan te meten.
of zie ik dat verkeerd?
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:22 PM
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gast, volgens mij begrijp je me niet helemaal..
geen kritiek op je basbody, ziet er tot nu toe best ok uit.
maar ik geloof niet dat jij het kan rechtvaardigen om jezelf de titel "gitaarbouwer met 10 jaar ervaring" aan te meten.
of zie ik dat verkeerd?
Tja tien jaar lang bij jan Knooren aan het werk zijn is tenslotte niet niets.

Kijk zelf maar.
http://www.knooren.com.
Je kan me vinden bij "the workshop"

"Wouter the walking encyclopedia."

en dit is een meer recentelijke foto van ondergetekende bij de bouw van een gitaar bij Knooren.
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:24 PM
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I considered it a joke as well, since the TB CUP states that all commercial users (music industry related) are to declare this publicly (see second sticky at the top of this forum) ...

eerlijkheid en transparantie, ja? hoe anders zou ik dit kennen?


nice basses BTW do you also do you own finish work?

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Old 04-11-2008, 02:27 PM
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seeing a shop so clean, I am starting to think you are joking again



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Old 04-11-2008, 02:37 PM
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Okay you wiseguys, I updated my profile.

As for the clean workshop, my boss INSISTS that we clean it up everyday so we have a working space where we can actually find anything we need without searching for hours on end.

The reason why I never classified myself as a luthier when I signed up for talkbass in 2003 was that I didn't consider myself a professional back then and wanted to keep people at bay wanting to order instruments from me because of the workload at Knooren handcrafted.

But put down the name "Knooren" in the search function of this board and you'll find me posting information that only an insider would know.
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OK! ik herkende je nu pas (had al wat dingen van je gezien op gitaarnet.nl)
goed, laten we er verder niet te veel woorden meer aan vuil maken
ik ben nog steeds van mening dat jij geen professionele gitaarbouwer bent, het is mijn goed recht om dit te vinden. (lees: 'mening'). Dit is waarschijnlijk omdat ik een ander idee hebt van het idee gitaarbouwer.
Dit is overigens niet van toepassing als je gecertificeerd gitaarbouwer bent, in dat geval neem ik mijn woorden terug.

Ook is het nooit mijn bedoeling geweest je werk af te kraken, mocht je dat bij jou wel zo over zijn gekomen: mijn excuses.
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:14 PM
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Daar heb ik vrede mee Giel, het meeste wat ik doe is ook customizen en reparaties en daar ben ik zeer goed in.

Laatst werd me op een ander bas forum gevraagd of ik een interview wilde in de "Bassist" over het bouwen van de "Goblin" basgitaar. Ik heb dat van de hand gewezen omdat ik mezelf niet goed genoeg vindt zeker in vergelijking met wat Andre van der End en Robbert de Vos aan het doen zijn.

Maar daar staat wel tegenover dat ik de body waarover dit topic gaat binnen vijf uur gelijmd, gefreesd, geschuurd en van een rand heb voorzien. Daar komt ervaring bij kijken, ik weet hoe ik dat moet doen en er geen potje van moet maken. De sunburst basgitaar was ook helemaal van mijn hand met uitzondering dat Jan Knooren hem voor me gelakt heeft.

Dus aan welke van jouw eisen zou ik tegemoet moeten komen voordat ik mezelf een professional kan noemen?
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Kijk, ik kan nu 2 dingen doen:
Ik kan jou uitleggen waarom ik vind dat jij jezelf (nog) geen professionele gitaarbouwer zou moeten noemen, maar ik denk dat ik met een redelijke zekerheid kan zeggen dat je dit als kwetsend of als zware kritiek op zal vatten.
Of ik kan me terugtrekken uit deze behoorlijk nutteloze discussie waarvan ik eigenlijk als spijt heb dat ik er aan ben begonnen.
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Hey guys it would be nice if you share with the rest of us what you are talking about.
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:22 PM
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Hey guys it would be nice if you share with the rest of us what you are talking about.
Well what Giel and I were talking about was that he thought that I was joking about being a professional luthier for over ten years and counting because I didn't put it in my profile.

And according to Giel's standards I don't qualify as a Professional. While I DO admit that I have a long way to go until I can call myself equal to say Vinnie Fodera, even Giel can't deny that being able to make a neat body that even in the raw state it currently is in looks like it does, takes some considerable skill.

I am no Fodera but I certainly am no amateur either.
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