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Old 03-27-2002, 12:39 PM
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Moveable/Sliding Pickups: Why don't we see more of them?

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I know that pickup placement has a huge effect on tone. It seems like it would be really useful to be able to change the positioning on the fly. Why are there almost no examples of this on the market? There must be some big disadvantages. I wanted to get the luthiers' opinions on this.
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Old 03-27-2002, 01:56 PM
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You might checkout the traditionalists thread on this.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:42 PM
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Does this "traditionalist thread" still exist?
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:52 PM
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The Gibson Grabber is the main example in basses with this concept, and it really never took. Reason, it's not really called for. Most out there are basic Fender wonks, and just keep redundantly buying Fenders because they like that sound. The more adventurous get into different brands, and become enammored, then there is the "looking for something really different" player, and they never stick with any one instrument long enough to ever know what they want, thus making the market for a sliding pick-up bass not worth the r&d to develop anything really practical.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:51 AM
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Dan Armstrong London bass

The Grabber bass pickup never really slid far enough - not enough tonal variation in my opinion.

The Dan Armstrong London bass (IIRC) had a much longer slide, so presumably a much wider tonal range. I am after one....
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:24 PM
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Westone Rail bass had plenty of total variance from sliding the pickup.
I think that the design was a bit too radical and minimalistic for most people's taste, but not that it didn't work.
http://www.westone.info/reviews/reviewrailbass.html
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:25 AM
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Hi.

Thanks elgecko for the link.

Even though I'm fairly new here, SSSBass's comments brought up some memories .

My take on the subject is the same as most of the others, complicated technology is way too expensive to be popular. If the benefits of said technology are questionable, the road to popularity is a rocky one.

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Old 07-28-2010, 02:49 PM
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I think the main reason there aren't many of these is because there are only a few positions that are different sounding enough, while still sounding "good." I took on this idea with a pickup testing bass I had, built a sliding platform to mount pickups to and test how they sounded in different spots. Here it is, posted in another thread

When testing, I found the best sound from many pickups were within the musicman 'sweet spot', where the pickup is in stingrays and sterlings. The frequency response was great, it seemed to have enough treble that the tone knob made a good difference, but still had plenty of bass oomph that it wasnt thin or lacking in warmth. BUT it wasn't really a large difference that it could not be achieved through amp EQing or a preamp.

There were definitely a few spots where the pickup sounded a bit bland, kind of like hitting a dead spot on a neck, so there are definitely reasons behind specific placement of pickups. If I had a single pickup bass, I would always put the pickup in this spot (MM sweet spot), but I think multi-pickup basses have an advantage, because basically you can take the different sounds of each pickup location and blend them together into one sound, unattainable by a single pickup.

Honestly the ideal would be to have a few pickups with their own volumes (or at least individual on/off switching) and a master volume pot, so you could blend each into your sound. I think that would be a great natural (passive instead of active) sounding way to get some really good usable tones. As always YMMV, these are just my observations after testing a bass with a movable pickup, and while it does allow a range of tones, it is not the most efficient way. I did have a hard time getting a good balance of it staying put while playing, and ease of moving it when I wanted it to.
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