Mr. Pastorius 5....progress

Wreck · #1 12-23-2008, 03:12 AM

This is a solidbody bass, without WPS

body...cherry
neck....walnut
fingerboard....wenge with maple/wenge binding
photos are taken with cell phone so...

ctmullins · #2 12-23-2008, 06:28 AM

Very pretty - love the headstock shape! With those woods, I bet it's heavy, though!

vbasscustom · #3 12-23-2008, 08:02 AM

yeah thats really sweet

Linas · #4 12-23-2008, 01:50 PM

Very nice looking, but what does it have to do with jaco?

jordan_frerichs · #5 12-23-2008, 06:57 PM

i wish i had that big of a piece of walnut sap. it would be great if it was 100% white sap.

Wreck · #6 12-24-2008, 05:48 AM

but what does it have to do with jaco?
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when it's made with WPS, which is in Mr.Pastorius built in as a system of whole pyramid blocks, and not like randomly arrayed small pyramids like in other models, it has a little muddy/twangy acoustic feeling that is characteristic for vintage sound, and the design is very simple,...so that's about all it has to do with Jaco......yeah and the name Of course..

joeyl · #7 12-24-2008, 09:08 AM

hmm what is WPS?

daveman50 · #8 12-24-2008, 09:15 AM

Check out the OP's web site for some seriously insane (in a good way) photos - one showing how he builds by carving little pyramids within the body. Yes, pyramids. Very nice.

http://www.wreckguitars.com/about.php

vbasscustom · #9 12-24-2008, 09:19 AM

holy crap, thats crazy, i have one question, are the pyramids put in there after, or are they carved into the body all in one peice?

joeyl · #10 12-24-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by vbasscustom

holy crap, thats crazy, i have one question, are the pyramids put in there after, or are they carved into the body all in one peice?

well according to the website each pyramid is carved into the body. And WPS is Wreck Pyramid system, would be nice if OP pointed that out

I would like to hear one live and see how they sound

**Rodent** · #11 12-24-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreck

but what does it have to do with jaco?
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when it's made with WPS, which is in Mr.Pastorius built in as a system of whole pyramid blocks, and not like randomly arrayed small pyramids like in other models, it has a little muddy/twangy acoustic feeling that is characteristic for vintage sound, and the design is very simple,...so that's about all it has to do with Jaco......yeah and the name Of course..

so it is not a fretless but uses the last name of a famous bass player who was most noted for his fretless playing

did I miss something?

seems a bit strange to use this name for purely marketing purposes IMO

overall the body has an appealing shape, and I like the front contour on the lower cutaway. outside of the naming faux pas I think you have a very nice looking instrument there Wreck

all the best,

R

Wreck · #12 12-24-2008, 10:39 AM

thank You may dear craftsmen....I am flattered
pyramids are carved into the body and they are a part of it. I'll post some sound clips in a close future....hope so

Linas · #13 12-24-2008, 10:40 AM

I can see why the pyramids might effect inside of a speaker cabinet, but i dont understand why it would have any effects on a guitar. Can you explain this technology a bit more, and do you have any data to support that it actually does anything different.

Taylor Livingston · #14 12-24-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodent

so it is not a fretless but uses the last name of a famous bass player who was most noted for his fretless playing

did I miss something?

seems a bit strange to use this name for purely marketing purposes IMO. outside of the naming faux pas I think you have a very nice looking instrument there Wreck

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Originally Posted by Linas

I can see why the pyramids might effect inside of a speaker cabinet, but i dont understand why it would have any effects on a guitar. Can you explain this technology a bit more, and do you have any data to support that it actually does anything different.

+1 to both of these. Your instruments look nice, Wreck, but naming the thing Pastorius when it doesn't really have anything to do with him is weird, and then this pyramid thing...

Builders who use BS to sell what is otherwise great work is a real turnoff for me. I would like to see some kind of research that would indicate that there's anything to this. If it were something cheap like a "tone-sticker®", then it would only be insulting to our intelligence, but I imagine all this carving makes for a much more expensive instrument, so you really need to show people that they are getting something for that extra expense and wait time.

Hope you don't take this the wrong way - I'm sure you don't have sinister motives here, and I wish you luck. There are times when builders themselves are quite convinced they are getting some change that they couldn't possible be getting (Fodera's B-string headstock, Rob Allen's solidbody bridge), so I don't doubt your sincerity - just come up with some kind of evidence.

Al Heeley · #15 12-24-2008, 04:55 PM

These pyramid things must be really clever so that only the bad, unwanted resonance is cancelled and the good natural resonance that is characteristic of a well-designed hollow body or semi- instrument is preserved or enhanced. You could follow the similar line of filling the cavity with rockwool or other fibres like they do in speaker cabs to dampen down resonant frequencies - it would be a lot easier than carving lots of pyramids, but somehow less mystical.
Anyway, an interesting feature to help differentiate your very nicely made instruments from other peoples.

SixString · #16 12-24-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodent

so it is not a fretless but uses the last name of a famous bass player who was most noted for his fretless playing

did I miss something?

seems a bit strange to use this name for purely marketing purposes IMO

R

+1 ...don't get the whole name thing, you might as well take a 6-string bass and call it Jaco while your at it ha.

daveman50 · #17 12-24-2008, 05:26 PM

C'mon guys! A little holiday spirit! The man makes beautiful instruments (even if the pyramid thing is a mystery) and clearly English is not his first language. Helpful suggestions are always welcome; snark is not.

Merry Christmas to all!

Ol'Bass'ead · #18 12-24-2008, 05:30 PM

+1, tho the pyramid thing puzzles me............

Taylor Livingston · #19 12-24-2008, 08:07 PM

True, maybe "pastorius" is the generic word for bass in Hrvatski.

#include <MK> · #20 12-25-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wreck

when it's made with WPS, which is in Mr.Pastorius built in as a system of whole pyramid blocks, and not like randomly arrayed small pyramids like in other models, it has a little muddy/twangy acoustic feeling that is characteristic for vintage sound, and the design is very simple,...so that's about all it has to do with Jaco......yeah and the name Of course..

I think the WPS is a very interesting idea. But my comments below specifically relate to what clearly seems like a bad attempt in misusing Jaco's name for marketing your product on the WPS, even though in this case your not using the WPS.

Well, firstly, you did state this particular bass is without WPS. You must appreciate that your spin (or marketing deception) on Jaco comes across as complete BS (not all people are ignorant) and contradicting yourself doesn't help.

Secondly, the WPS has nothing to do with a real 62 Fender JBass sound, or the sound Jaco got while playing that bass for that matter. There is no way your design will sound anything like a real 62 Fender JBass, doesn't matter what you say.

I think some people are intrigued, but not by the marketing angle which turns people off.