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Old 06-25-2008, 01:47 AM
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new design :) your thoughts??

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made a quick pencil sketch of what i was thinking for build #2. i am liking it what do you think? open to ALL opinions, suggestions, comments, critism, ect.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:58 AM
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You definitely need to refine the sketch. Are the black shapes supposed to be like f-holes? Maybe you should make them symmetrical.
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some things will probably change, but for now, here are the specs on the design:
- strings: 4
- fretting: fretless with full fretlines on harmonic frets 5, 7, 12, and 24, and partial lines on all other frets (not sure exactly how i want to lay those out. thinking on it) the fb cuts off on the treble side for slap purposes, plus sweet looks
- neck through
- single cut hollowed/chambered
- custum "f" holes. really digging these
- tuner style: clover
- pup config.: jazz

Woods and hardware:
- fingerboard: bloodwood w/ maple or beech lines
- neck body center: really sappy walnut and bloodwood
- body wood: ash and walnut strips
- top: spalted maple with bloodwood binding on the holes
- accent line: bloodwood
- bridge: thinking a fender style heavy Gotoh
- pups: basslines QP jazz

all in all i am really digging the shape of the headstock, the body, the fb end, the holes, and the look all around. please let me know if it looks way to simalar to someone elses work, so i can mod it/ get permision. hate just stealing others creativty.

thanx for taking the time to look
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You definitely need to refine the sketch. Are the black shapes supposed to be like f-holes? Maybe you should make them symmetrical.
lol i did this on my breaks at burger king, so there is minor grease smuges. tried to clean it up as much as my crappy computer would let me. i was going for something diffenent with the holes. if you bring the neck-side set together, it is like a yin-yang sign, and on the bridge set, it is the same, only the halves face from each other. all of the people i have showed it to, say that the holes are the best part. thanx for input.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:37 AM
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looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up
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looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up
lmao. seriously. u like?
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:39 AM
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looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:31 AM
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Hey man,

I like the shape and it definitely looks unique.

A few thoughts:

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the fb cuts off on the treble side for slap purposes, plus sweet looks

- single cut hollowed/chambered

- pup config.: jazz

- top: spalted maple with bloodwood binding on the holes

- pups: basslines QP jazz
Re: Fingerboard:
Do you plan on slapping much on a fretless semi-hollowbody? If you do, by all means. Otherwise, I think having the fingerboard extend on the treble side would be much more useful.

Re: Semi-Hollow / Spalted Maple:
I am no luthier, but just wanted to ask; is there any issues with the instability of spalted maple over a semi-hollow body?

Re: Pickups:
I have always heard that Quarter Pounders are loud and aggressive. You might consider something that will pick up the nuances of a fretless better. (Please note I am going off what I have heard, not personal experience, I don't own any basses w/ QPs).

Re: F-holes: I too agree that they should be symmetrical on the top and bottom half of the body.

Just my thoughts. I am definitely looking forward to this build.
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The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest.
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Odd, the headstock is the feature I dislike the most...

The body is *ok*, but I dig the direction it's headed.

All I gotta say is sometimes different isn't always good.
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Odd, the headstock is the feature I dislike the most...
I think the headstock should have the same shape as the body to tie it together more.
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Hey man,

I like the shape and it definitely looks unique.

A few thoughts:



Re: Fingerboard:
Do you plan on slapping much on a fretless semi-hollowbody? If you do, by all means. Otherwise, I think having the fingerboard extend on the treble side would be much more useful.

Re: Semi-Hollow / Spalted Maple:
I am no luthier, but just wanted to ask; is there any issues with the instability of spalted maple over a semi-hollow body?

Re: Pickups:
I have always heard that Quarter Pounders are loud and aggressive. You might consider something that will pick up the nuances of a fretless better. (Please note I am going off what I have heard, not personal experience, I don't own any basses w/ QPs).

Re: F-holes: I too agree that they should be symmetrical on the top and bottom half of the body.

Just my thoughts. I am definitely looking forward to this build.
thanx for all the input man, really appreciate it. i am not dependant on slap, because i suck at it, but it i am working on it. to be honest i mainly play punk music, witch is pick territory, but i thought it would be sweet to have at least 1 frettless. just curious, what benifets would there be with the fb having the extension on the treble side?
i am not that experienced either, as this one will only be my second build. i imagine the spalted maple would glue just like any other woods. the rotting that occurs in it, happend when the tree is alive, and it gets sick. should sound klike any other maple unless i am missing something. as far as the pups go: yeah, i am still thinking on this, if i want a classic fretless tone, or something a little more punchy. still thinking on it.
the holes: i will make another sketch to see if they look better like that. jensby design gave mne an idea that i am thinking over. instead of having the holes be completely cut out, cut them out, and before i glue the top on, glue a piece of blood wood under the top where the f-holes are cut out, so that the holes are covered on the inside with bloodwood.
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The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest.
yeah. thanx didn't think of that. if i do the point i will rember to give it a nice contour
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The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest.
I thought the same thing.
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:19 AM
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i just stumbled across this. might be cool for the bridge pup.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JAZZ-FAT-HUMBUCK...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:22 AM
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looks interesting, you will see on a post im making that i made a little cartoon version of my bass, i can do that for this if you like so you can see it more clearly and then easily tell me what your thoughts are and i can change it. I'll start on it now whether you want me to or not and you can just tell me the colour/s and i'll add them in. Looks different though, could either turn out great or crap depending on how clean its made
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:02 AM
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thanx for all the input man, really appreciate it. i am not dependant on slap, because i suck at it, but it i am working on it. to be honest i mainly play punk music, witch is pick territory, but i thought it would be sweet to have at least 1 frettless. just curious, what benifets would there be with the fb having the extension on the treble side?
i am not that experienced either, as this one will only be my second build. i imagine the spalted maple would glue just like any other woods. the rotting that occurs in it, happend when the tree is alive, and it gets sick. should sound klike any other maple unless i am missing something. as far as the pups go: yeah, i am still thinking on this, if i want a classic fretless tone, or something a little more punchy. still thinking on it.
the holes: i will make another sketch to see if they look better like that. jensby design gave mne an idea that i am thinking over. instead of having the holes be completely cut out, cut them out, and before i glue the top on, glue a piece of blood wood under the top where the f-holes are cut out, so that the holes are covered on the inside with bloodwood.
i have a coupple suggestions for you. first of all, that design would look much better if the body were to scale better wiht the necck. second, i really dont think hollowbody is what you want for punk. and for that tone versatility to sound smooth or have punch, might i suggest cherry? sounnds like a midway between maple and mahogany, and has been used in luthiery for centuries.
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The shape kinda reminds me of the old Tokai Talbos...
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:20 AM
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i have a coupple suggestions for you. first of all, that design would look much better if the body were to scale better wiht the necck. second, i really dont think hollowbody is what you want for punk. and for that tone versatility to sound smooth or have punch, might i suggest cherry? sounnds like a midway between maple and mahogany, and has been used in luthiery for centuries.
you can use a semi acoustic bass for punk. There is a band from new Zealand called shihad and he uses a semi acoustic. They arent punk but they are rock. Check out the bass sound on "Shot in the head" its top notch!

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heres a little cartoon version i made of this if you want to get a better idea of what it will look like, i just enjoy doing this when i have ideas because it looks nice and clean. what you think? if any of you guys want me to draw a bass idea you had like this just ask. and if there is something you want me to fix up on the picture jordan, like the colour, just ask. cheers

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