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07-16-2008, 04:12 PM
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07-16-2008, 04:24 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | Amazing.... And all this time I used to think that big round light in the sky at night, led me to the bar.
Cool stuff Erik. | 
07-16-2008, 04:31 PM
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I didn't know you were a scientist!!! Thats awesome.
That makes you a big nerd (in a positive way)!!
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07-16-2008, 10:03 PM
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07-16-2008, 10:47 PM
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07-17-2008, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcury Wow, very cool. Can you make fretboard dots out of them? | Hehehe....besides breaking all sorts of NASA rules and a few laws, they would be so small that you'd never see them. They're about this big --> .
Not only that, but if you consider the cost of the Apollo missions and translate that into a cost-per-bead, I think they'd be very expensive.  | 
07-17-2008, 07:51 AM
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Congrats on the article and the find. Tre' cool!!!!!!
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07-17-2008, 08:28 AM
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07-17-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by erikbojerik Hehehe....besides breaking all sorts of NASA rules and a few laws, they would be so small that you'd never see them. They're about this big --> .
Not only that, but if you consider the cost of the Apollo missions and translate that into a cost-per-bead, I think they'd be very expensive.  | Yeah but i'll bet they'd sound better than clay dots!!! 
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07-17-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcury Yeah but i'll bet they'd sound better than clay dots!!!  | Imagine the mid-hump you'd get from moon rocks!
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07-17-2008, 05:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clinton Township, MI | | | Scientific-alistic questions I was reading about that earlier this week.
Very, Very, cool(?)
I understand if you blow off the following questions (especially in a TB forum)
(I read just enough, and watch just enough Discovery Channel to be a pain) - At impact, could water-containing-material (WCM) have been expelled from Earth into a more segregated path?, a path that might have come into play later in the proto-moon’s formation?
- How “cool” would the proto-moon have to be for that kind of WCM to survive?
- Would it have been possible for that “cooler” proto-moon to incorporate that kind of WCM?
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07-17-2008, 07:11 PM
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07-18-2008, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RLK - At impact, could water-containing-material (WCM) have been expelled from Earth into a more segregated path?, a path that might have come into play later in the proto-moon’s formation?
- How “cool” would the proto-moon have to be for that kind of WCM to survive?
- Would it have been possible for that “cooler” proto-moon to incorporate that kind of WCM?
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The only "giant impact" of this kind that has ever been observed through a telescope was the 8 (or so) pieces of comet Shoemaker-Levy that crashed into Jupiter a few years ago....not exactly analogous to the supposed moon-forming event for the Earth. So this giant impact theory is exactly that....a theory....but a theory that has been shown to be extremely likely (statistically speaking) during solar system formation....so likely that it is probable that all the inner planets experienced at least one, and probably more than one, before reaching their present masses. The giant impact is also really the only viable theory that can explain the angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system. It has been the subject of some pretty fancy computer simulations. Many of these simulations are very high-quality, but because of CPU limitations they all make simplifying assumptions about some key parts of the physics involved. Having said all that....
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A "cool" giant impact, one which does not completely melt the Moon, is one very likely scenario. All the simulations done to date suggest very high temperatures during and immediately after the impact, but I'm not sure that all the variables have been fleshed out fully (impact direction, angle, velocity, relative impactor masses, etc), and none of these simulations have been done with an atmosphere for the Earth.
One problem with a "cool" giant impact is that the Moon's crust is full of the kinds of minerals (feldspar mainly) that float on a magma ocean, which has long been taken as supporting evidence for a high-energy giant impact. But this doesn't necessarily mean the ENTIRE Moon was once molten.
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07-18-2008, 08:35 AM
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07-18-2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wilser I'm surprised Jens Ritter hasn't used them for side dot material. | If he hears about this, he will. 
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07-18-2008, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by erikbojerik - - - -A "cool" giant impact, one which does not completely melt the Moon, is one very likely scenario. All the simulations done to date suggest very high temperatures during and immediately after the impact, but I'm not sure that all the variables have been fleshed out fully (impact direction, angle, velocity, relative impactor masses, etc), and none of these simulations have been done with an atmosphere for the Earth.
One problem with a "cool" giant impact is that the Moon's crust is full of the kinds of minerals (feldspar mainly) that float on a magma ocean, which has long been taken as supporting evidence for a high-energy giant impact. But this doesn't necessarily mean the ENTIRE Moon was once molten. | Thanks for the reply!
(AND for speaking in "101" terms I could understand).
Didn't realize a "cool" impact could be a possible scenerio.
I was speculating maybe the (survivng) water-containing-material came into to play during a later, cooler phase of a "hot" impact scenario. Wilser,
That Ritter side dot comment; LOL!!
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07-19-2008, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by erikbojerik Hehehe....besides breaking all sorts of NASA rules and a few laws, they would be so small that you'd never see them. They're about this big --> .
Not only that, but if you consider the cost of the Apollo missions and translate that into a cost-per-bead, I think they'd be very expensive.  | Ritter will probibly use them on his next bass 
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07-19-2008, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wilser I'm surprised Jens Ritter hasn't used them for side dot material. | Damn.. It would help if I read the entire thred before posting my smark-alek remarks. 
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