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02-02-2010, 07:48 AM
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I've seen a lot of drum shells made of oak, and it seems to sound good on a tap test. Why is it not seen on guitars and basses? Too heavy? Reminds people of furniture?
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02-02-2010, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HogieWan I've seen a lot of drum shells made of oak, and it seems to sound good on a tap test. Why is it not seen on guitars and basses? Too heavy? Reminds people of furniture? | It is indeed a heavy wood. For drum shells it's thin ply as well. Only thing i've ever tried it on was a fretboard (quartersawn) | 
02-02-2010, 07:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | | Hi.
You pretty much nailed a couple of reasons, perhaps the most common ones.
A couple of others would be stability issues, splintering, PITA to work with compared with woods of the same characteristics often costing a fraction of the price of oak.
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02-02-2010, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by T-Bird Hi.
You pretty much nailed a couple of reasons, perhaps the most common ones.
A couple of others would be stability issues, splintering, PITA to work with compared with woods of the same characteristics often costing a fraction of the price of oak.
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Sam | Yessir, it splinters like Wenge or purpleheart | 
02-02-2010, 08:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lafayette, LA | | | I have the opportunity to pick up some "scraps" for cheap (flatsawn 8x24x.75 for $1/each). These are good enough for practice and testing, I assume.
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02-02-2010, 08:23 AM
| | Registered User Luthier of Michael Wayne Instruments, Shop Manager ChromeDomeMusic | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cincinnati OH | | | Yep. Make sure to examine the boards. Any shake or check could result in an explosion as well as the need for new pants.
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02-02-2010, 08:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Netherlands | | | I have seen (youtube vid) Carl Thompson use Fishtail oak for tops, it looked stunning! | 
02-02-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyswood Yep. Make sure to examine the boards. Any shake or check could result in an explosion as well as the need for new pants. | I'll wear eye, ear, and pant protection.
I'm using a CNC, so I need to test that my models are cutting correctly. It's kind of enclosed, so I won't be standing right over it should something happen.
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02-02-2010, 09:30 AM
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02-02-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickett Customs It is indeed a heavy wood. For drum shells it's thin ply as well. Only thing i've ever tried it on was a fretboard (quartersawn) | Its no heavier than hard maple, and certainly less heavy than rosewood or wenge.
Maybe its my English aesthetic, but I really like it when the grain gets a bit interesting. Right up there with elm for me. 
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02-02-2010, 10:36 AM
| | | | yeah, but rosewood or wenge arent common solid body woods, and yes, it does look quite nice when used as a top, the grain can be quite interesting.
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02-02-2010, 10:42 AM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey R Its no heavier than hard maple, and certainly less heavy than rosewood or wenge.
Maybe its my English aesthetic, but I really like it when the grain gets a bit interesting. Right up there with elm for me.  | In contrast of other lighter woods Oak is heavy. Make a solid body out of Hard maple, wenge, rosewood or Oak, surely heavier than ash, poplar...etc, that's what was meant...... wasn't very clear, was I?  | 
02-02-2010, 12:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: "Newland", Finland | | | Good 4 necks? I used oak (with maple stringers) for a bolt-on neck on my "Black Pearl". It really IS a PITA to shape, but I never had any problems with splinters...
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02-02-2010, 01:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lafayette, LA | | | I was planning to use it as a prototype neck as these pieces are even cheaper than maple besides being a bit interesting.
I am also going to attempt make drum shell with my CNC, so I was buying this oak anyway.
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02-03-2010, 05:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ham Lake, MN | | | I've read that some of Orville Gibson's early guitars were oak (acoustic, of course), and that the early Peavey T-40 bass and T-60 guitars were oak. A bit heavy, at least my T-40 is. I've used ash and oak together on furniture projects and it is darned difficult to tell for all except quarter sawn. I used the same local Ash for my first bass build. | 
02-03-2010, 06:17 PM
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