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07-27-2006, 03:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Slovakia | | routing tunnels for wiring
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Hi,
im so sorry to ask this but i haven't found it and im in work with my first jazz.. any tips/tools for making connections under the wood..?
thanks and.. i apologize ;
mike | 
07-27-2006, 04:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Egypt | | two ways i know.
the hard way:
a round chisel that is used for wood carving and dig the tunnel in the wood.
the easy way:
use a drill to drill the tunnels. this is more dangerous especially if you are not experienced enough with a drill. and you are also liable to break the bit if you go at a steep angle and decide to redirect your drill. a broken bit deep in the wood is nasty.
ok may be its not an easy way. have fun  | 
07-27-2006, 05:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Slovakia | | thanks,
i was thinking of drilling, just wondering if there is not a special trick.. it looks i'll use a auger gimlet (what a new words for me..) http://www.leevalley.com/images/item.../33j2001s1.jpg
ps: maybe in some cases few broken bits in the wood can improve overall acoustic character of the instrument.. ;; | 
07-27-2006, 06:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Egypt | | | oh i never saw those things before! they look quite neat actually.
for laminated bodies, do you guys route tunnels beneath the top before you glue everything together? i was thinking of doing that on the next laminate to reduce time and hassle. | 
07-27-2006, 06:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Slovakia | | | these toys seem to be around for nice couple of centuries..
and laminated bodies.. i guess it is done this way you wrote | 
07-27-2006, 06:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Atlanta/Loganville | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by mahrous oh i never saw those things before! they look quite neat actually.
for laminated bodies, do you guys route tunnels beneath the top before you glue everything together? i was thinking of doing that on the next laminate to reduce time and hassle. | With my chambered stuff, I just make sure to create some openings in the "walls" around the control cavity. Then I rout the pup inlets and, usually, I get an opening at the end of the cavity for running wires. Makes it easier than fishing a wire blind. | 
07-27-2006, 09:39 AM
|  | Supporting Member Owner/Builder: Regenerate Guitar Works | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Upper Left Corner (Seattle) | | you could also use one of these in your electric hand drill http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
it's a 3/16" diameter extra long drill bit. I use a similar bit to drill connections between pickup cavities and the control cavity. if you ground your bridge, it is also good for that channel too
all the best,
R | 
07-27-2006, 10:32 AM
|  | Registered User Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southwest Michigan | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Rodent you could also use one of these in your electric hand drill http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
it's a 3/16" diameter extra long drill bit. I use a similar bit to drill connections between pickup cavities and the control cavity. if you ground your bridge, it is also good for that channel too
all the best,
R | Exactly....long enough to go through the neck pocket all the way to the rear cavity, or long enough to drill angularly to the control cavity without scuffing the body around the pick-up rout.
Although, I rarely make bolt on's, these are indespensible for doing boltons. | 
07-27-2006, 12:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: N / East Texas | | Just be careful using a long bit any smaller than 3/16. I used a 1/8 once for a slanted bridge-control cavity channel, and it drilled a nice curved hole. It came out about 15 degrees different than it went in, and it came out the back of the body.  3/16 should be alrignt, though. | 
07-27-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Musiclogic Exactly....long enough to go through the neck pocket all the way to the rear cavity, or long enough to drill angularly to the control cavity without scuffing the body around the pick-up rout.
Although, I rarely make bolt on's, these are indespensible for doing boltons. | And don't buy one from StewMac - they're way overpriced. I get mine from Home Depot in the bits section. | 
07-27-2006, 12:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN | | | I'm building a laminated body and I was thinking of pre-routing the tunnels and putting brass tubing in them for shielding... do you think that's overkill?
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07-27-2006, 12:42 PM
|  | Supporting Member Owner/Builder: Regenerate Guitar Works | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Upper Left Corner (Seattle) | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hambone And don't buy one from StewMac - they're way overpriced. I get mine from Home Depot in the bits section. | same here, but I couldn't find one on-line in the Home Depot inventory. I also believe Slovokia is one of the few places where you won't find the big orange guys
all the best,
R | 
07-27-2006, 02:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Slovakia | | | yes.. maybe just along the road cleaning it. thanks all for advices, im going to do it next day. and since it wants to be sort of 62 relic, there will be a brass stripe and i dont have to route under the bridge.. what joy ; | 
07-27-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ogrossman I'm building a laminated body and I was thinking of pre-routing the tunnels and putting brass tubing in them for shielding... do you think that's overkill? | use copper tubing, not brass..
i don't think it's overkill at all.. | 
07-27-2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mahrous oh i never saw those things before! they look quite neat actually.
for laminated bodies, do you guys route tunnels beneath the top before you glue everything together? i was thinking of doing that on the next laminate to reduce time and hassle. | I do. It's especially easy if you have an instrument with a top. You can glue the core together, just rout some channels out, and glue the top on afterwards. While being careful to not get to much glue in them. | 
07-30-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by throbgod13 use copper tubing, not brass..
i don't think it's overkill at all.. | I don't see any inherent advantage of using copper over brass, other than copper is more flexible.
placing tubing inside the body is an interesting concept...sort of like using a metal conduit...of course, there's no advantage of this if using shielded wires...
as for drilling the holes, I had an idea kicking around of trying a straightened piece of heavy wire coat hanger with a sharp tip....used carefully with a drill at low speed and making sure to clear the hole frequently, I'm sure it would work...albeit not as good as an extended drill bit...
for solid bodies (no laminates) there are two obvious "entry points" for your drilling...1) the neck pocket...2) the jack hole (if it's on the side)...
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