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Old 02-16-2007, 04:46 PM
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Achilles Last Stand... *** JPJ?

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The part I'm a little confused about is main verse riff. It sounds like he's playing a combination of E and B notes and harmonics. Such as

A -7--7-7-7-----------------------------------------------
E ------------7-7-7--0-0-0--(5)-(5)-(5)--(5)-(5)-(5) etc...
________________________harm.-------------------------|
and then:
A -7--7-7-7--7-7-7--7-7-7--7-7-7----(7)-(7)-(7)--(7)-(7)-(7) etc...
E ----------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________harm.---------------------|

Does anyone else hear it this way and think its correct?
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:15 PM
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I think he's using an 8 string Alembic on that song if I'm not mistaken. That may be what your hearing. I know he used one live for it.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:43 PM
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Yes, JPJ used his 8-string on much of the "Presence" album.
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:43 PM
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8-string eh? thats interesting. I'll listen again with that in mind.
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:59 PM
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8-string eh? thats interesting. I'll listen again with that in mind.
Yeah, 8 sting harmonic if you will. Like a 12 string guitar. He plays a 10 string now.
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:36 PM
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I think he's using an 8 string Alembic on that song if I'm not mistaken. That may be what your hearing. I know he used one live for it.
Yup, looks like it.



Why is it impossible to get a shot of JPJ without what's-his-name jumping around in front of him?
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Old 02-17-2007, 05:52 PM
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Yup, looks like it.



Why is it impossible to get a shot of JPJ without what's-his-name jumping around in front of him?
Hey now, your talking about one of my Idols, I play guitar also. Jimmy Started Zep, he wanted Entwhistle. He couldn't get out of his contrct. He done studio work w/ JPJ and he became the second member, they found Robert and he introduced them to Bonzo.

You want to see an intersting song go to John Paul Jones.com, go to multimedia and select "Tidal", It's from Guitar Wars in Japan. Ever see anyone play lead Bass on a 10 string Manson?
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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Hey now, your talking about one of my Idols, I play guitar also. Jimmy Started Zep, he wanted Entwhistle. He couldn't get out of his contrct. He done studio work w/ JPJ and he became the second member, they found Robert and he introduced them to Bonzo.

You want to see an intersting song go to John Paul Jones.com, go to multimedia and select "Tidal", It's from Guitar Wars in Japan. Ever see anyone play lead Bass on a 10 string Manson?
Ha ha

Page has my respect and then some. Just being a smart ass... I watched that vid (even though it made me install that vial realplayer). Awesome! That bass sounds like a monster! The whammy solo was, interesting. I would of rather heard the basses' own sound though. The begining made me laugh where he's like "...what else... oh ya, i was in led zeppelin".
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:20 PM
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Ha ha

Page has my respect and then some. Just being a smart ass... I watched that vid (even though it made me install that vial realplayer). Awesome! That bass sounds like a monster! The whammy solo was, interesting. I would of rather heard the basses' own sound though. The begining made me laugh where he's like "...what else... oh ya, i was in led zeppelin".
Yeah that's his main Bass now. I got a kick out of the " Oh yeah, I was in a band called Led Zeppelin".
Manson Guitars website has all of the Basses, Bass mandolin, and lap steel guitars he has made for him. Quite a batch and talk about some $$$$.
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Old 02-18-2007, 11:39 AM
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Just a quick note--last August I was in Cleveland at the Rock & Roll Hole of Shame and easily the coolest things I saw were the organ and, yes, 8-string Alembic JPJ used on "Presence." The sound of that entire album is killer all around. JPJ gets such a sharp grind from the 8-string and his pick.
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