Salvation is here - sigh...

[bleeding]

I really need help with this solo. I dunno if I am doing something wrong, or if I am just not skilled enough to do this.

I can nail this solo if he did not play the triplets or whatever he was doing. I have tried my left hand on every position on the neck possible - its my right hand that cannot keep the tempo....

The sad thing is, I got on youtube and saw a ton of guys whos left hand was terrible but thier right hand was just flailing away.

Any suggestions to help my right hand on this song???

[fretman4god]

he's doing sixteenth notes throughout the whole solo. start really slow with a metronome, slow enough to be easily counting out 1-ee-and-uh-2-ee-and-uh etc...while playing the notes. like 80 bpm or something. Get everything perfect at that tempo, and then move it up to 90, and do it again. once you start approaching the tempo of the song, start increasing speed less. like go from 110 to 115. keep it up until you can play it at the actual speed. i find that it's so hard because of the string changes, not the actual speed of the sixteenth notes. so really practice going from string to string up and down.

[bleeding]

So you think the metronome will help with my right hand? The sequence of notes flows well i just cant seem to keep that rythm even if the notes never changed......I also have trouble keeping that fast rythm at the beginning of the song...

[derelicte]

use a pick.
or a good delay pedal.
or both.

[omoxrawr]

it's hard with a pick because of the string changes, and the 16th notes. I think it's way easier with your fingers, just keep doing it, keep practicing to a click.. If worse comes to worse use a delay and do whole notes..

[Incognitus]

Originally Posted by fretman4god

he's doing sixteenth notes throughout the whole solo. start really slow with a metronome, slow enough to be easily counting out 1-ee-and-uh-2-ee-and-uh etc...while playing the notes. like 80 bpm or something. Get everything perfect at that tempo, and then move it up to 90, and do it again. once you start approaching the tempo of the song, start increasing speed less. like go from 110 to 115. keep it up until you can play it at the actual speed. i find that it's so hard because of the string changes, not the actual speed of the sixteenth notes. so really practice going from string to string up and down.

I second this. Start slow and get the notes and the chord progression down for it. If you know the progression backwards and forwards it makes it ALOT easier. Just start doing whole notes for the changes then slowly speed up as fretman4God outlines. It just takes work. It's alot of fun to bust out though.

[playinpearls]

yeah, just practice it with fingers... I've been playing it, but not playing the full 16ths, first i started out with just playing the note changes, the I add some here and there, where ever i can get them to fit...eventually, i'll be able to play the whole thing. We had a bass player for a little while that was from a music institute....it took him like a month to get it going, so i'm not going to rush myself....

besides, you and a select few are the only ones that can here that its not exactly what he is playing....everyone else is oblivious...

i play it starting on fret 17(?) on the d string, then move down the board and octave for the second part

he has some videos under "tenni's bass blog" too, seen'em?

[zachbass02]

Originally Posted by derelicte

use a pick.
or a good delay pedal.
or both.

It's done with a delay pedal. saw 'em live 2 years ago and it was a delay pedal.

[macsim]

We just do a version that has no bass solo!

And yet, I played drums at another church one Sunday and the bassist, who had never heard the song before, came in and learned it overnight without using anything but his fingers. He got it pretty close too.

[Eublet]

Playing the 16th notes is well within reach for an experienced player. Not sure if the guy used a delay or not, but given the consistancy of the notes, it would'nt surprise me as he doesn't seem that technically proficient in some of his playing.

I suggest you forget the solo completely for now and just practice on your right-hand technique, playing 16th notes with a metronome at slower speeds. You can do 4 note patterns on open strings, or use the typical chromatic spider exercises or a major scale. Start with four 16th's per note, and then go to the next note. Do the major scale in thirds for example, like this.

CCCC-EEEE-DDDD-FFFF-EEEE-GGGG-FFFF-AAAA-GGGG-BBBB-AAAA--CCCC-BBBB-DDDD-CCCC

You can do this all in one position, starting with the middle finger on the low C. No shifting of the hands.

Start this out slowly, say 60 BPM, and work up to around 120. This might take days or a few weeks. Then start over playing the same scale in 4ths, 5ths, 6ths, etc. You'll get much more bang for your practice time than you will just shedding the solo itself. When you can do that, then go back to the solo. It'll probably be a piece of cake at that point.

Good luck in whatever you do though! Just remember not to get frustrated as this will make you tense up, and execution will become even harder.

[playinpearls]

Originally Posted by zachbass02

It's done with a delay pedal. saw 'em live 2 years ago and it was a delay pedal.

probably wasn't the original player then, cause he has a video on you tube showing people how to play it on an acoustic bass, and he is fingering every note...

look it up... tenni's bass blog

[zachbass02]

Originally Posted by playinpearls

probably wasn't the original player then, cause he has a video on you tube showing people how to play it on an acoustic bass, and he is fingering every note...

look it up... tenni's bass blog

ok...I'm just stating what I saw when Hillsong United played Rocketown 2 years ago. Kid was playing a Stingray and right before they started the song he tweeked his pedal....

I wasn't saying that it's impossible to play...I've played that song several times and everytime with the break down. no worries. just practice....not a big deal.