Spoonful - Jack Bruce

[oldrocker]

Can anyone help me with some on Jack's work on the studio version of Spoonful.

I know it's in E minor and I have the basic riff but, I could use help figuring out some of his fills and runs.

I'm just looking for the version on Fresh Cream, not the 17 minute version from Wheeels of Fire.

Tab or Standard Notation is OK with me.

[GeneralElectric]

I love this song and I've played it a lot. Let me give the studio version a listen and I'll get back to you.

If you'd like I can record a bass only part for you

[GeneralElectric]

Anyone know of where I can find the studio version online?

All I have on my computer is various live versions (which is where its at anyways)

[Deluge Of Sound]

Yeah, go buy a copy of Fresh Cream

here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lRmVOGw3M&fmt=18

[GeneralElectric]

Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound

Yeah, go buy a copy of Fresh Cream

here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-lRmVOGw3M&fmt=18

I have Goodbye, Disraeli Gears, and all their live work.

[oldrocker]

Any Jack Bruce guys out there? Can anyone help with this?

[LilMissStrange]

Wish I could help. With Jack Bruce being the bass player he is, and Cream being such a huge influence, it's a shame there are NO Cream and/or Jack Bruce tabulature books out there ANYWHERE. Believe me I searched high and low for some with no luck.

[spode master]

Originally Posted by LilMissStrange

Wish I could help. With Jack Bruce being the bass player he is, and Cream being such a huge influence, it's a shame there are NO Cream and/or Jack Bruce tabulature books out there ANYWHERE. Believe me I searched high and low for some with no luck.

Huh the basic bass line is simple.

I think everything else is improvisational.

Learn to improv your own bass solo, you can't steal Jacks Soul.

Its like people learning Hendrix Solo's note for note.

Jimi would never play the same solo twice, and i don't think he was to cool with people learning his solos with from the albums.

Instead of trying to play what Jack plays, play something that acompanies the feel of the song. Make it yours put your soul into it.

Spoon Full is a cover anyhow.

Just my 2 cents.

[Jim Carr]

Originally Posted by spode master

Huh? The basic bass line is simple.

I think everything else is improvisational. Learn to improv your own bass solo, you can't steal Jacks Soul. Its like people learning Hendrix Solo's note for note.

Jimi would never play the same solo twice, and i don't think he was to cool with people learning his solos with from the albums.

Instead of trying to play what Jack plays, play something that acompanies the feel of the song. Make it yours put your soul into it. Spoon Full is a cover anyhow.

+1

Love Jack, but do your own Thang!

[Jim Campbell]

Originally Posted by spode master

Huh the basic bass line is simple.



Learn to improv your own bass solo,

Its like people learning Hendrix Solo's note for note.

Jimi would never play the same solo twice, and i don't think he was to cool with people learning his solos with from the albums.

Instead of trying to play what Jack plays, play something that acompanies the feel of the song. Make it yours put your soul into it

i think that learning note for note can be helpful in developing a style....there is a clapton bass book out there ,i even have it somewhere,some bruce some radle and i think spoonful was transcribed in an old guitar mag

[oldrocker]

Originally Posted by spode master

Huh the basic bass line is simple.

I think everything else is improvisational.

Learn to improv your own bass solo, you can't steal Jacks Soul.

Its like people learning Hendrix Solo's note for note.

Jimi would never play the same solo twice, and i don't think he was to cool with people learning his solos with from the albums.

Instead of trying to play what Jack plays, play something that acompanies the feel of the song. Make it yours put your soul into it.

Spoon Full is a cover anyhow.

Just my 2 cents.

I didn't realized I was trying to steal jack's soul.

To quote Billy Ray Valentine in Trading Places - "Thanks you've been he'pful"

[oldrocker]

Originally Posted by LilMissStrange

Wish I could help. With Jack Bruce being the bass player he is, and Cream being such a huge influence, it's a shame there are NO Cream and/or Jack Bruce tabulature books out there ANYWHERE. Believe me I searched high and low for some with no luck.

I've found bass transcriptions for Crossroads, Strange Brew, Badge, Politician, Sitting on Top of the World and some others but nothing for Spoonful.

[LilMissStrange]

Originally Posted by oldrocker

I've found bass transcriptions for Crossroads, Strange Brew, Badge, Politician, Sitting on Top of the World and some others but nothing for Spoonful.

I have an issue of Bass Player magazine that has Badge in the back. All those guitar/bass magazines have a section in the back with tabs to about 4 songs. I have a Rush and a Led Zep bass tabulature book. I just want to learn how to play the songs, the main riffs and such. Its good practice. I hope that doesnt mean Im stealing someone's soul! *chuckle* Sure you can do you own thing for solos and stuff. One of my old bands did Spoonful, so a cover of a cover of a cover....Its really easy as long as you get the main riff and chords.
Try: GEGEGE DE GEGEGE
Good luck!

[spode master]

You will probably get way more mileage out of learning all of your modes. Altered scales, and pentatonic scales, and learning what chords they fit over instead of just learning jacks licks.

All the scales and modes have the same predictable finger patterns regardless of the key your in.

You will have an easier time figuring out Jacks licks if you know your scales and hand positions.

Good luck

[oldrocker]

Originally Posted by spode master

You will probably get way more mileage out of learning all of your modes. Altered scales, and pentatonic scales, and learning what chords they fit over instead of just learning jacks licks.

All the scales and modes have the same predictable finger patterns regardless of the key your in.

You will have an easier time figuring out Jacks licks if you know your scales and hand positions.

Good luck

Not only are you not being helpful, but you are violating the rules of this forum.

Thanks Again

[jpark369]

i love the live versoin of this on the 2005 royal albert hall concert. wow, he kills that song!! hes such a great player!
its E and G with some walk ups and downs, and you gotta bend that G to get the full effect. and like the above poster said its def. alot of improv for sure. jack loves the blues scale so go from there with alot of the solo stuff. he does alot with the "tonal weight" of the notes as well. meaning he plays the same E to G sequence but goes higher up on the bass or lower for different situations.
probably not much help sorry. jack bruce owns, good luck!

[dougjwray]

I would recommend approaching it the old fashioned way:
Forget trying to find tabs, etc., and just sit down with the recording. Play along with it and figure out the parts you want to learn, even if it takes you days to do it.
My $.02.
And just buy the song, willya? Jack deserves, and could probably use, the money.

[oldrocker]

Originally Posted by dougjwray

And just buy the song, willya? Jack deserves, and could probably use, the money.

I own (legal purchase) much/most of jack's catalogue from Cream to his thing with Tony Williams to West Bruce and Laing the And Friends stuff with Billy Cobham his Solo stuff, his stuff with Robin Trower including the recent Seven Moons plus BBM and the limited edition 2 CD version of the "Cities of the Heart" 50th birthday party.

I even have a vinyl record he did with Leslie West, way after WBL, called Theme and his foray into electronic music on "Automatic"

I've also paid to see him live about 10 times including the Cream reunion concert at Madison Square Garden, plus I purchased the DVD, so I think I'm more than square with Jack.

[spode master]

Originally Posted by oldrocker

Not only are you not being helpful, but you are violating the rules of this forum.

Thanks Again

I'm not so sure about that.

Never said tab is bad.

Never said just listen to it.

I do think my advice is very helpful to all bass players.

I use tabs for songs I want to learn, If I can't find sheet music.

However, I don't try and learn other peoples solo's.

Improvisational playing is by nature spontaneous.

You may get a basic idea of the notes played, But tab seldom conveys rhythm, and never feeling. I find the thing that helps improvisational playing and learning songs is, practicing your scales, arpegios, and jamming.

If you can't jam with someone often enough, something silly like Band in the box can be a nice cheesy substitute.

I'm also a Fan of the Jamey Abersold books.

Nothing but the blues has some pretty cool stuff.

I can't specifically point you to any tabbed Jack Bruce Solos. I don't think he could either. I'm sure something like that exists.

I would suspect that its a lot of the good ole E Blues Scale, with lots of Triplet runs, and swung half notes.

[oldrocker]

Originally Posted by spode master

I'm not so sure about that.

Never said tab is bad.

Never said just listen to it.

I do think my advice is very helpful to all bass players.

I use tabs for songs I want to learn, If I can't find sheet music.

However, I don't try and learn other peoples solo's.

Improvisational playing is by nature spontaneous.

You may get a basic idea of the notes played, But tab seldom conveys rhythm, and never feeling. I find the thing that helps improvisational playing and learning songs is, practicing your scales, arpegios, and jamming.

If you can't jam with someone often enough, something silly like Band in the box can be a nice cheesy substitute.

I'm also a Fan of the Jamey Abersold books.

Nothing but the blues has some pretty cool stuff.

I can't specifically point you to any tabbed Jack Bruce Solos. I don't think he could either. I'm sure something like that exists.

I would suspect that its a lot of the good ole E Blues Scale, with lots of Triplet runs, and swung half notes.

Yes, I'm sure your advice is helpful to all bass players. Please do us both and all the other bass players a favor and spread your advice in a more general wider read forum and stop posting in my thread.

Thanks again