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Old 01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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If heroin were legal and available in known dosages chances are your friends would not have OD. The British had legal heroin until recently and didn't seem to have a problem with it.

Ginger Baker is a case in point.
I sure wouldn't use Ginger Baker as a poster child for how great heroin is.

If heroin were legal and available in known doses, it would be for some type of medical use, not recreational use.
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What's the best weed for metal?
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:04 PM
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There's a fascinating book called "Opium: A History" that I highly recommend reading. A significant percentage of the high-functioning western world (and, let's be honest, plenty of low-functioners, too) was habitually using opiates from the 17th-19th century (often in the form of laudanum and patent medicines, for ailments ranging from toothache to diarrhea). Heroin was a major medical breakthrough of the early 20th century. Like morphine before it, heroin was a major improvement in the purity and safety of the medicine.

But of course, a certain % of humans have addictive personalities, they will get hooked on whatever is available. Should we incarcerate them? Treat them? Leave them alone? I don't know the answers; it's a tough question.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:14 PM
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So this thread has pretty much drifted ....

The argument that "[insert name here] smokes and he does okay in life" does not hold water since there is no way to tell how much better [insert name here] would be doing if he wouldn't have/doesn't smoke.
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You have to chuckle when a moderate to heavy drinker makes comments about someone else smoking.
Really!

The guy I played with who went way overboard abusing pot was absent-minded and could be unreliable at times.

The guy I played with who went way overboard abusing alcohol drove around drunk, started and lost fights for no reason, blacked out and **** his pants in public.

I don't mind being around moderate smokers or drinkers. But the heavyweight abusers? I'd take a taffy-headed potsmoker any day of the week over an out-of-control drunk.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:17 PM
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Really!

The guy I played with who went way overboard abusing pot was absent-minded and could be unreliable at times.

The guy I played with who went way overboard abusing alcohol drove around drunk, started and lost fights for no reason, blacked out and **** his pants in public.

I don't mind being around moderate smokers or drinkers. But the heavyweight abusers? I'd take a taffy-headed potsmoker any day of the week over an out-of-control drunk.
How about accepting neither?
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How about accepting neither?
Nothing wrong with accepting neither. But to me, pretending they're both equally bad is nonsense.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:27 PM
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Just got back from Jamaica and the AK-47 was killer. Gum hash was pretty sweet too!
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I would have been like, "yeah, thats cool. You dont mind if I huff some silver spray paint do ya?"
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:40 PM
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Having been told by you that you don't do drugs, I think they should have told you up front, not a "by the way" on the spot, but it sounds like you're already leaning away from getting deeply involved with them anyway.
Excellent point. This is what I meant when I said they were rude. They already knew OP was was not into drugs. If they were considerate, they would have handled it differently. It has nothing to do with what you can or can't do in your own home, it has to do with knowing your manners.
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Sans the garbage man and barista I'm willing to bet that none of those people light up before practice in front of strangers and probably none of them smoke frequently. If you've earned a PHD then by all means light up [occasionally] if you want to.
I used to work for the largest chip manufacturer in the world.

I'd conservatively estimate that 1/3 of the engineers where I worked were REGULAR pot smokers.

Probably close to 50% smoked occasionally.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:04 PM
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I've spent time building those chip plants, and let me tell you, the construction workers are tested frequently. Pass: you get $50, fail: you gather up your tools and you are out the gate.

That's an expensive fail.

I keep coming back to the OP's audition, the message they sent, loud and clear, was, "you will stand by and wait for us to toke." Pretty rude.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:06 PM
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I keep reading here about "where it's illegal" etc. last I checked, it is illegal in all fifty. Sure, two states say it's legal, but their federal gov says otherwise.

The U.S. Needs to legalize it. Until then, I will not be party to it, I want to know nothing about your possession of it, do not bring it in my home, my ride, etc. I will NOT go to jail for your f-ups.

And don't call me uptight. I have a family to support.

And thats my take on it, thanks.
+100 on that. As silly as the laws may be, that's how it is for now and I'm not willing to risk getting in trouble for something I'm not even into personally.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:09 PM
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So this thread has pretty much drifted ....

The argument that "[insert name here] smokes and he does okay in life" does not hold water since there is no way to tell how much better [insert name here] would be doing if he wouldn't have/doesn't smoke.
Exactly. Hendrix used all kinds of drugs and was creative, but no way to know if he would have been even more so had he not touched a drug. One thing for sure is that he likely would have lived past 28...
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:12 PM
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Real simple video tape your performance sober then record one wasted. Only catch is you will have to be sober to see which one is better.
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I used to work for the largest chip manufacturer in the world.

I'd conservatively estimate that 1/3 of the engineers where I worked were REGULAR pot smokers.

Probably close to 50% smoked occasionally.
i worked as a Bench Tech for a well known aerospace company. 75% of the engineers and techs in our wing burned it! our industry is literally loaded with stoners who live on the 'bleeding edge"! technology benifits greatly from "out of the box" thinkers, IME.

the world is a better place because of endless uses for cannabis. it's the end-all of end-alls. it ain't just for smokin'!!!

so, smoke it, drink it, or rub it on your butt. wear it, cook with it, or tie-up your dog,... it does it all.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:21 PM
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I used to work for the largest chip manufacturer in the world.

I'd conservatively estimate that 1/3 of the engineers where I worked were REGULAR pot smokers.

Probably close to 50% smoked occasionally.
What kind of Engineers? Sanitation Engineers? Building maintenance Engineers? Parking garage lightbulb changer engineers?

With all due respect I'm not buying it. What's harder to believe than 1/3 of the engineers smoking pot is the fact you knew that they smoked or didn't smoke. Did they wear pot leaf shirts to work?
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:26 PM
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Real simple video tape your performance sober then record one wasted. Only catch is you will have to be sober to see which one is better.
I recorded my duo's last performance and posted it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU35Evl8-p4
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I quit smoking pot a few months ago, because I was having problems at work concentrating, finishing tasks, remembering to do tasks, and having the same problems in my private life - forgetting where I was driving to, misplacing items, and so on.

Imagine my concern when the problems got worse after quitting! I went to the doctor, thinking I had some sort of neurological problem, and maybe the previous years of pot smoking was masking it in some way, or had damaged my brain. But the neurologist he referred me to found nothing wrong in that department, and I scored very high on tests of memory and cognition.

So I went to see a psychiatrist, and after a couple of interviews, he has decided to give me a prescription for a small dose of Adderall. He thinks I'll benefit from treatment for ADHD.

It was never the pot. The pot just kept anxiety at bay, and when I stopped smoking it, my anxiety and stress went through the roof, making my ADHD tendencies worse.
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