420 at practice - at what point do you tell somebody?

[Session1969]

Originally Posted by boristhespider9

Untrue. That's what you want to believe, because perhaps you've met a few people in positions of responsibility who engage in illegal and irresponsible behavior -- and it makes you feel like you're in the majority -- but these are anomalies. I wouldn't approve of any of the scenarios above. I'd also speculate that most people who would approve don't actually have their own family and/or don't hold positions of responsibility in their day jobs.

(sigh). Sir, please stop watching Fox.

[boristhespider9]

Originally Posted by Session1969

(sigh). Sir, please stop watching Fox.

That doesn't even make sense.

[LiquidMidnight]

Originally Posted by boristhespider9

I'm just curious if you'd be ok with a pot-smoking surgeon operating on your wife or mother, a pot-smoking anesthesiologist putting you under for surgery, a pot-smoking lawyer drafting your will and trust, a pot-smoking cop responding to your house during a home-invasion, a pot-smoking pharmacist measuring your kid's liquid antibiotic dose, a pot-smoking truck driver in a big-rig behind your family car, a pot-smoking tech installing your new gas stove, or, for that matter, a pot-smoking drummer holding the beat for your first sold-out show at House of Blues just after you've been introduced to a major label rep specifically there to see your band play?

I wouldn't.

Talk about an appeal to emotion argument! I'd have no problem at all; although I'd find a pot-smoking cop a bit hypocritical. As long as they are not intoxicated when they are performing their jobs, it makes no difference to me. These aren't herion addicts here.

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by boristhespider9

I'm just curious if you'd be ok with a pot-smoking surgeon operating on your wife or mother, a pot-smoking anesthesiologist putting you under for surgery, a pot-smoking lawyer drafting your will and trust, a pot-smoking cop responding to your house during a home-invasion, a pot-smoking pharmacist measuring your kid's liquid antibiotic dose, a pot-smoking truck driver in a big-rig behind your family car, a pot-smoking tech installing your new gas stove, or, for that matter, a pot-smoking drummer holding the beat for your first sold-out show at House of Blues just after you've been introduced to a major label rep specifically there to see your band play?

I wouldn't.

You know not everyone smokes when they're on the job, right? Kinda like how not every person who occasionally drinks alcohol drinks on the job.

[IronLung1986]

i don't have much against weed in general. i voted to legalize it here in washington state. but i disapprove of guys in the band smoking pot or drinking at practices and gigs. of the two, drinking is MUCH more detrimental because it makes people totally sloppy and lazy, which is just an awful shame when you work hard to get material sounding tight. nothing infuriates me like spending hours perfecting a set and then sounding bad at a gig because the guys drank too much before playing. that is just the worst. but weed is a potential problem too. it can show up at practices and derail the whole thing. i've had many practices which eventually turned into just a bunch of guys smoking pot. obviously i don't touch the stuff - i've had 7 lung surgeries and honestly it never interested me much. but i don't think it's too much to ask that people save the drinking and getting high till after the gig or practice.

[QORC]

I wouldn't be in a band with druggies - period.

I'd walk

[Crazyeelboy]

I thought the band guys were OK. While they didn't say anything in public (I can understand why), they tell you that this is "what they do". Seems like they were as up front as they could have been expected to be. It's their band and if you are not comfortable with what they do, then don't join the band.

Personally, I'd bail on any band where everyone gets intoxicated at rehearsal. For me, rehearsal is serious business. A loose jam and hanging out is another story...

[AleemRadunzel]

to be frank its not something you wanna blurt out on a craigslist ad.

but to be honest. would you have walked out of the stones because of their habbits?

or

"yo jimi i dont think you should try and finish that song now, why dont you go and have a nap and you can finish it when you feel better in the morning!"

i wont go the whole

"WHAT DO YOU THINK FRUCTOSE DOES TO THE HUMAN BRAIN? You dumb sXe f*** ian mckay hates you get over it"

stuff

but i have punched more straight edge people in the face than i have had cross words with normal people.


that says something.

im gonna make you cry like a straight edge at his daddys funeral

[aborgman]

Originally Posted by denhou1974

What kind of Engineers? Sanitation Engineers?

On the design side - Computer and Electrical engineers primarily. Mostly MS, but with about 1/4 BS and 1/4 PhD.

In the manufacturing side - Electrical and Chemical engineers.

Originally Posted by denhou1974

With all due respect I'm not buying it. What's harder to believe than 1/3 of the engineers smoking pot is the fact you knew that they smoked or didn't smoke. Did they wear pot leaf shirts to work?

Some of them just about did...

As for how I would know - it wasn't exactly something the majority of them even attempted to keep secret.

[boristhespider9]

Originally Posted by AleemRadunzel

to be frank its not something you wanna blurt out on a craigslist ad.

but to be honest. would you have walked out of the stones because of their habbits?

or

"yo jimi i dont think you should try and finish that song now, why dont you go and have a nap and you can finish it when you feel better in the morning!"

i wont go the whole

"WHAT DO YOU THINK FRUCTOSE DOES TO THE HUMAN BRAIN? You dumb sXe f*** ian mckay hates you get over it"

stuff

but i have punched more straight edge people in the face than i have had cross words with normal people.


that says something.

im gonna make you cry like a straight edge at his daddys funeral

Why not blurt it out? Oh yea, it's illegal.

Most people here are weekend warriors who have day jobs and the like. To compare an audition with local cover band goofballs with "you wouldn't have walked out on the Stones, would you?" or Hendrix is nonsensical. It just shows how far users will go to justify their conduct. It's delusional.

[Mushroo]

Originally Posted by boristhespider9

Why not blurt it out? Oh yea, it's illegal.

Most people here are weekend warriors who have day jobs and the like. To compare an audition with local cover band goofballs with "you wouldn't have walked out on the Stones, would you?" or Hendrix is nonsensical. It just shows how far users will go to justify their conduct. It's delusional.

You could just as easily invert this statement and say: who cares if a bunch of weekend warriors with day jobs playing in a cover band drink a beer or smoke a doobie? The comments about "rehearsals are sacred and nobody should ever do anything fun that might distract from the important business of perfecting every note of the song" are equally nonsensical unless you are a major artist with your career (and the careers of others) on the line. I don't know about you guys but I have a lot of stress in my life and look forward to hanging out with my friends at band night and relaxing. Some weeks we make good progress, other weeks are just about goofing off and building camaraderie. If music ever stops being fun for me what's the point?

[ChrisB2]

Originally Posted by AleemRadunzel

to be frank its not something you wanna blurt out on a craigslist ad.

but to be honest. would you have walked out of the stones because of their habbits?

or

"yo jimi i dont think you should try and finish that song now, why dont you go and have a nap and you can finish it when you feel better in the morning!"

i wont go the whole

"WHAT DO YOU THINK FRUCTOSE DOES TO THE HUMAN BRAIN? You dumb sXe f*** ian mckay hates you get over it"

stuff

but i have punched more straight edge people in the face than i have had cross words with normal people.


that says something.

im gonna make you cry like a straight edge at his daddys funeral

WT* was THAT???

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by LiquidMidnight

Talk about an appeal to emotion argument! I'd have no problem at all; although I'd find a pot-smoking cop a bit hypocritical. As long as they are not intoxicated when they are performing their jobs, it makes no difference to me. These aren't herion addicts here.

I agree (though I dont necessarily find a pot-smoking cop hypocritical, unless they often cited pot smokers for possession). In fact, I do know many people who smoke pot, and some of them are in highly respected professions, such as university professors, lawyers, and yes, even cops.

Originally Posted by IronLung1986

i've had many practices which eventually turned into just a bunch of guys smoking pot.

Ive had this happen before as well, to both the productive and unproductive side of the coin (different bands). In one, it just turned into a session, and at that point I realized the band wasnt for me because it wasted tooo much of our rehearsal time. In the other, we took a break from a productive rehearsal to smoke a bowl, and over the course of the next 15 minutes we discussed various strategies for improving our bands draw, and then went back to the music.

I had two beers over the course of a 3 hour rehearsal the other day, to no efffect. Id rather have smoked a bowl beforehand, but I didnt have time to pick any up, as I had to work overtime at my job due to leadership training.

[inthevelvet]

Originally Posted by AleemRadunzel

to be frank its not something you wanna blurt out on a craigslist ad.

but to be honest. would you have walked out of the stones because of their habbits?

or

"yo jimi i dont think you should try and finish that song now, why dont you go and have a nap and you can finish it when you feel better in the morning!"

i wont go the whole

"WHAT DO YOU THINK FRUCTOSE DOES TO THE HUMAN BRAIN? You dumb sXe f*** ian mckay hates you get over it"

stuff

but i have punched more straight edge people in the face than i have had cross words with normal people.


that says something.

im gonna make you cry like a straight edge at his daddys funeral

If this post was an attempt to show how pot doesn't affect a person's mental capacity, it was an epic fail!

[inthevelvet]

Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

You know not everyone smokes when they're on the job, right? Kinda like how not every person who occasionally drinks alcohol drinks on the job.

Maybe true, but apparently it was the first thing for the band in the OP to do on their first night of auditioning their new bass player. What folks do on their own time is of little concern to me. But if I show up to rehearsal and the first thing the band needs to do, before even playing, is get high, I know that would not be the situation for me.

[boristhespider9]

Originally Posted by inthevelvet

Maybe true, but apparently it was the first thing for the band in the OP to do on their first night of auditioning their new bass player. What folks do on their own time is of little concern to me. But if I show up to rehearsal and the first thing the band needs to do, before even playing, is get high, I know that would not be the situation for me.

But the band name was "The Slackers"!

[vishuddha]

Originally Posted by nortonrider

Sounds like you need some of your "meds" Adderall or Ritalin.
(or smoke a joint)

I don't take the meds... I consider dealing with it to be a challenge I have to overcome myself. Doesn't make it any less difficult. Those who don't have ADHD just don't understand how much it sucks. I'd appreciate if people would do research once in a while before they start insulting others. And yes, cannabis can help you focus in this situation... I don't use it as such, but it DOES have a legitimate positive effect.

[RustyAxe]

First off, I have nothing against marijuana. I smoked (a lot) when I was young, but career (corporate officer of a multi-national) and family made a straight man out of me for nearly 30 years. Then came cancer and chemo ... pot was a great help. Now, I'm retired ... no pissin' in a bottle, no job responsibilities. I often have a puff after unloading the car after a gig, helps me "come down" from the onstage high.

All that said, there's little room for intoxication at rehearsals, IMO. I'm there to get some work done, not hang out and get high with buddies. I'd have no problem suggesting that everyone light up AFTER rehearsal. If that wasn't agreeable, I'd start looking for another band ... just as I would if band members were wasting my time any other way (such as coming unprepared, unpracticed, etc).

It ain't about the substance, it's about wasting my time. Period.

[Toolmybass]

Originally Posted by RustyAxe

All that said, there's little room for intoxication at rehearsals, IMO. I'm there to get some work done

Excellent quote!. People have various tolerances to pot, and can vary depending on
-the type of pot and its THC %
-how much they smoke or dont smoke on a regular basis
-if they have just eaten or havent eaten
-on and on

Other problems are from people that only do it when boozed up, and it puts them over the edge and they have a "bad" experience, then are negative towards pot!

Then there is the people that dont do it at all (then think they are educated enough to make a comment on the subject) of their "perception" of intoxication from weed. Which they have no idea

I ALWAYS did my bass "homework" and always showed up prepared for a practice or a gig...and because i was so prepared, being "high" NEVER had an effect on my playing ability. Our band taped practices and gigs...and NOT a difference or effect of making mistakes

Now..not knowing your limits (or even caring) of alcohol or pot to the point of intoxication that obviously effects your playing ability...should NOT happen in a band scene because it can effect everything. Should not be tolerated!

TMB

[CrewsControl]

Originally Posted by vishuddha

I don't take the meds... I consider dealing with it to be a challenge I have to overcome myself. Doesn't make it any less difficult. Those who don't have ADHD just don't understand how much it sucks. I'd appreciate if people would do research once in a while before they start insulting others. And yes, cannabis can help you focus in this situation... I don't use it as such, but it DOES have a legitimate positive effect.

I think it does for a lot of people. It did for me, for a long while. But I think I smoked so much, it became my normal state, and so, was not as relaxing as it used to be. I became accommodated to it.

I just picked up my prescription at the pharmacy. I start it tomorrow (and have to quit coffee ). You would not believe how much red tape the insurance company wraps around prescribing a 50-year-old Adderall.