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Old 01-11-2013, 02:29 PM
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Many of the religious/spiritual people I know choose cannabis (plant given to us by God) over alcohol (man-made poison), so I would not be surprised to see compassionate voters of the Bible Belt voting to legalize medicine for sick people.
Eh, beer is made from combining various gifts from God (water - a natural occuring element, barley & hops - plants, and yeast - fungus) and becomes alcoholic via fermentation (a naturally occuring process). In beer, alcohol and CO2 are the product of yeast consuming sugars (provided by barley).

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That's true. Some people like it. Some hate it. I might have a different opinion if it wasn't illegal.
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Ain't no problem with it hahaha.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:43 PM
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For me it would be a problem. I would have had to leave the room until they were done. I admit nothing but there is a possibilty that I may have already smoked more than Bar-b-que joint next to a charcoal factory. When people around me are hubbing it up I find myself leaning towards them and inhaling deeply. That's a huge problem for me. I would ask them if I could show up after they were done and the room cleared out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:02 PM
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When people around me are hubbing it up I find myself leaning towards them and inhaling deeply.
Naturally. Most smokers do it for the flavor, those of us who grew up in the 70s understand this.

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Old 01-11-2013, 11:34 PM
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i don't have much against weed in general. i voted to legalize it here in washington state. but i disapprove of guys in the band smoking pot or drinking at practices and gigs. of the two, drinking is MUCH more detrimental because it makes people totally sloppy and lazy, which is just an awful shame when you work hard to get material sounding tight. nothing infuriates me like spending hours perfecting a set and then sounding bad at a gig because the guys drank too much before playing. that is just the worst. but weed is a potential problem too. it can show up at practices and derail the whole thing. i've had many practices which eventually turned into just a bunch of guys smoking pot. obviously i don't touch the stuff - i've had 7 lung surgeries and honestly it never interested me much. but i don't think it's too much to ask that people save the drinking and getting high till after the gig or practice.
+1 . I left my last group partially because of that. A father/daughter team who had to bring a twelver to every practice. First time I'd seen that.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:52 PM
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I answered a CL ad for a cover band looking for a bassist.

I get to the audition with these guys, all nice guys, and get set up. Then, all set up and ready to go, the BL mentions, "Oh by the way, we like to do 420 at practice," and everyone lights up.
I would have looked at them and said:

"Well, I don't smoke, but do you mind if I......fart? It's a habit of mine. Yeah, they got a special section on airplanes now for me. I quit once for a year, buuuuut I gained alot of weight. It's hard to quit. Especially after sex I really have the urge to light one up!"
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:00 AM
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Weed in the weedshed? - The Mega Thread.

To me, It sometimes feel that some musicians use music as mean to get together and get high. The music becoming secondary.
I say 420, why not? But only if you can still play. Amen brothers
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:57 AM
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Weed in the weedshed? - The Mega Thread.

To me, It sometimes feel that some musicians use music as mean to get together and get high. The music becoming secondary.
I say 420, why not? But only if you can still play. Amen brothers
I see what you're saying, but I don't tend to consider people who have that kind of thought to be really serious musicians. Nothing wrong with that if it's you're bag, though
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Around here it is legal, but even before hand pot was no big deal - alcohol and smoking were/are considered worse than pot in a lot of circles.

However, the drug test thing - it's not a rumor, or heard from someone's sister, etc. it really is a scientific fact. I have a lot of experience on the "corporate" side of this, and my brother (yeah i know i heard it from my brother) is a scientist that studies metabolism and drug tests and drug effects on the body .. but a simple Google search should come up with enough reputable sources to confirm.

Seriously. Second hand pot smoke and drug tests are not an issue.
Depends on the test. On a conventional test second hand smoke isn't really an issue. It depends on the cut off level level though. On most tests if the level of THC level is below a cutoff level it is considered negative.
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Off topic but I find it interesting that the "bible belt" also has most of the country's for-profit prisons ... an industry that will lobby against repeal of any laws that might cut into its bottom line. The so-called war against drugs has become a profit making enterprise, from the police to the courts to the prisons. As long as there is money to be made (illicit sales and distribution or interdiction) the laws will be slow in changing.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:51 AM
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This is NOT meant to be a thread on the evils or joys of pot, I think that's been done ad nauseam.
I guess that didn't work out...
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:53 PM
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The other guys in my band do, and I don't drink or smoke. It doesn't bother me at all. As long as it doesn't interfere (it never has) with their playing its a non issue to me.

To me, it's weirder at gigs when people offer to buy drinks and I say I don't drink...
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:32 PM
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over alcohol (man-made poison),
Lol

I have seen deer drunk off apples that had been on the ground too long and started fermenting. It was around a long time before early man started making Dandelion Wine or Rum from sugar cane

Now if your guitard is hittin' moonshine in between songs, you might have a problem
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Just flipping through the thread but one problem is "weed" doesn't mean much. That term can encompass an mj strain that will stupefy you and ruin a practice, or one that will uplift. A few more puffs and you're too spaced out.
bottom line, band members need to be on the same page, so i say keep it an open topic
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:16 PM
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I guess that didn't work out...
Ha ha no kidding, right? Barely bothering to read my own thread now. But it's been good for the most part.
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because of your post, i have just quit my band! the truth is liberating! infact,... i think i'm about to leave my wife!!! and move to Canada!!!! and buy a boat!!!!!
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:38 AM
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To me, it's weirder at gigs when people offer to buy drinks and I say I don't drink...
I don't drink either and when someone sends drinks or shots up for the band, I always pass.

On at least two of those occasions, the buyer of the shots/drinks has said something snotty to me about it being rude not to drink it....
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:23 PM
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I don't drink either and when someone sends drinks or shots up for the band, I always pass.

On at least two of those occasions, the buyer of the shots/drinks has said something snotty to me about it being rude not to drink it....
Well, I find it even more rude to buy alcohol for someone who doesnt drink...
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:27 PM
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My bandmates can pound a fifth of Jim beam and smoke a tampon sized joint of our finest Norcal all they want if it never affects their playing, but we all know it will. Everybody knows their limit (and sometimes struggle to stay within it). We look at the band as not just a personal hobby, but a commitment to three other guys as well, we NEED you to do your job to the best of your ability. I won't tell someone they have to be sober, but when they mess up a part they otherwise wouldn't they get my eye daggers and a stern talking to after rehearsal/gig and I make a point to embarrass them for their lack of control and professionalism (not publicly of course). And guess what? nobody wants to have that happen ever again, and it doesn't.
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Anything in moderation, and at the right times. Pot really isnt a big deal. Id much rather have a bandmate on stage thats a little too stoned then one that has had too many drinks.

Side note: Ever notice weed has a built in mechanism that keeps you from smoking too much? Sometime if you ever get nice and toasty, you may forget you are holding the bond. A drunk never forgets hes holding his beer!
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From the position of a musician, card holding medical patient in my state and a habitual user on that side of things, I think there's a couple of things to note.

1: If you think it would've been prudent to have the band let you know that they like to use marijuana at practice, it follows that it would have been just as easy or appropriate for you to ask or give a heads up on your drug use and comfort with it. If we go on stereotypes there's no way they'd remember to tell you or think it was pertinent information.

2: It's also really crappy that marijuana gets a completely different treatment from much more popular, toxic and sinister drugs like nicotine alcohol and prescriptions, though they should be vaporizing or ingesting marijuana for their health!

3: Smoke Weed Everyday.
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