420 at practice - at what point do you tell somebody?

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by Redhot6

1: If you think it would've been prudent to have the band let you know that they like to use marijuana at practice, it follows that it would have been just as easy or appropriate for you to ask or give a heads up on your drug use and comfort with it.

Really? It's MY responsibility to tell people ahead of time that I'd prefer they not break federal laws in my presence?
Huh. Interesting take on things.

[Luke19Boarder]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

Really? It's MY responsibility to tell people ahead of time that I'd prefer they not break federal laws in my presence?
Huh. Interesting take on things.

Yes, considering half of the population has smoked pot before ... it's not uncommon at all (especially in musician's circles). You should be aware of that, and make sure that if you don't want to be anywhere near it, you say so. Because, as mentioned many times before, some people just don't see the big deal in doing it.

[MatticusMania]

I always make certain, when auditioning for a a new band, to ask whether or not any members will be breaking federal laws at rehearsal. I thought that was commonplace.

[Mushroo]

Originally Posted by Redhot6

1: If you think it would've been prudent to have the band let you know that they like to use marijuana at practice, it follows that it would have been just as easy or appropriate for you to ask or give a heads up on your drug use and comfort with it.

This is the best suggestion in the thread. Courtesy is a two-way street.

Those of you who keep insisting "possession of a small quantity for personal use is a Federal offense" have no idea what you're talking about. If you're curious what the federal government really cares about, look at the number of musicians busted for tax offenses over the years...

[Stewie26]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

I always make certain, when auditioning for a a new band, to ask whether or not any members will be breaking federal laws at rehearsal. I thought that was commonplace.

LOL....maybe you should email them a questionnaire prior to accepting the audition.
Maybe it's just a California thing, but every band I have been in during the last 25 years, at least one member has smoked a little pot.

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by Stewie26

LOL....maybe you should email them a questionnaire prior to accepting the audition.

What? You guys dont?

[charliefreak]

420 at practice? Good question- I guess you'll have to see for yourself!

I found recently that when I quit smoking cigarettes, it really cleared up my head at work and when I play. I don't notice that when I quit toking for a few weeks. IMO, if you think it's affecting things, it's not the drug but the person themselves.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by Luke19Boarder

Yes, considering half of the population has smoked pot before ... it's not uncommon at all (especially in musician's circles). You should be aware of that, and make sure that if you don't want to be anywhere near it, you say so. Because, as mentioned many times before, some people just don't see the big deal in doing it.

Spoken like a true pothead. Peace, brutha!

[Luke19Boarder]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

Spoken like a true pothead. Peace, brutha!

Ha - naw, it's been quite a while since I touched the stuff, don't even enjoy it anymore. But I'm perfectly fine if others want to do it.


So those of you who don't want to be near it just because it's illegal - I certainly hope you don't accept shared files of songs to learn from your band leader - that's SUPER illegal!! (shoot - you probably shouldn't let anyone with an ipod in your car unless they can prove they purchased all the music on it!)

Also - hope you don't associate with anyone who does any of the following:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19450...lizing-it.html

[Mushroo]

I went on a date once, and when she picked me up she drove, like, 56 in a 55mph speed zone. She should have said up-front in her eHarmony profile that she was planning to break the law on our date, what a ***** for involving me in her illegal activities without my consent! I COULD have just politely told her to slow down, but I shouldn't be expected to have to do that---it was just plain rude of her not to telepathically anticipate my needs and preferences.

[LiquidMidnight]

Originally Posted by HolmeBass

A big part of Rastafarianism right there. This is the verse they feel defines the ganja sacrament.

I remember watching a documentary about pot a year or so ago, and one segment was a church based entirely around smoking. It wasn't Rastafarianism, though; it clearly had a Christian influence. The pastor said that the landlord who owned the building where they previously held services kicked them out when he found out what they were doing, so they were holding services in the pastor's house. The congregation consisted of like three dudes and two chicks passing around a bong and calling the weed they were smoking "sacrament" with completely straight faces. Then the pastor gave a sermon in his kitchen. And the kicker is that they were all dead serious about this. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[troy mcclure]

I didn't go through all 18 pages. I am no saint, but would prefer not to be in the presence of weed. I use to partake and don't mainly because my job randomly tests and also I realize how was suppose to expect my teenage kids obey the law if their dad got arrested.
If you are in someone's practice space, you certainly can't tell them what to do but I think if it was effecting the progress of the band I would speak up. In every band I have been in people (other than me) drink at rehearsal. I did ask some guys to cut back a bit when I hosted rehearsal as the guitard spilled a beer on my brand new carpet in the new rehearsal space. I iliterally stopped rehearsing all together with my current band because the drummer thought it was social hour and wanted to drink and bring his gf and her kid to rehearsal. It is a matter of common courtesy, I have had to aska band mate not to drink in my car while I was driving. I would prefer if they weren't carrying any illegal substance. I have a decent job and would hate for an overzealous law enforcement officer to lock me up because my band mate who I was nice enough to give a ride to a gig was carrying.

[ChrisB2]

Originally Posted by Mushroo

I went on a date once, and when she picked me up she drove, like, 56 in a 55mph speed zone. She should have said up-front in her eHarmony profile that she was planning to break the law on our date, what a ***** for involving me in her illegal activities without my consent! I COULD have just politely told her to slow down, but I shouldn't be expected to have to do that---it was just plain rude of her not to telepathically anticipate my needs and preferences.

What a great analogy.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by Luke19Boarder

So those of you who don't want to be near it just because it's illegal - I certainly hope you don't accept shared files of songs to learn from your band leader - that's SUPER illegal!! (shoot - you probably shouldn't let anyone with an ipod in your car unless they can prove they purchased all the music on it!)

Originally Posted by Mushroo

I went on a date once, and when she picked me up she drove, like, 56 in a 55mph speed zone. She should have said up-front in her eHarmony profile that she was planning to break the law on our date, what a ***** for involving me in her illegal activities without my consent! I COULD have just politely told her to slow down, but I shouldn't be expected to have to do that---it was just plain rude of her not to telepathically anticipate my needs and preferences.

Yes, these are relevant examples because they're EXACTLY the same as smoking pot. ALL of these things will get you arrested and possibly thrown in jail, forcing you to post bail, hire an attorney and go to court. Yep, great analogies, spot on.

[Woofer]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

Yes, these are relevant examples because they're EXACTLY the same as smoking pot. ALL of these things will get you arrested and possibly thrown in jail, forcing you to post bail, hire an attorney and go to court. Yep, great analogies, spot on.

I'm always amazed at the lengths people will stretch logic to in order to legitimize an illegal activity.

[nashvillebill]

Somewhere somebody pointed out the state of Oklahoma, but it kinda got glossed over.

In parts of the country, such as Oklahoma, pot use is still VERY much taboo. Distribution (even of a seed) in OK is still a felony. Possession of much more than a small quantity is still a felony.

I know it's hard for folks in pot-friendly states to understand, but the authorities in places like OK are still quite draconian in their drug laws.

[dmusic148]

Originally Posted by Woofer

I'm always amazed at the lengths people will stretch logic to in order to legitimize an illegal activity.

It's something, isn't it?

[Stewie26]

Originally Posted by nashvillebill

Somewhere somebody pointed out the state of Oklahoma, but it kinda got glossed over.

In parts of the country, such as Oklahoma, pot use is still VERY much taboo. Distribution (even of a seed) in OK is still a felony. Possession of much more than a small quantity is still a felony.

I know it's hard for folks in pot-friendly states to understand, but the authorities in places like OK are still quite draconian in their drug laws.

I mentioned that. The article link I posted said you could get life in prison for distribution of small amounts. That was a shocker for me since I'm from California.

[Luke19Boarder]

Originally Posted by dmusic148

Yes, these are relevant examples because they're EXACTLY the same as smoking pot. ALL of these things will get you arrested and possibly thrown in jail, forcing you to post bail, hire an attorney and go to court. Yep, great analogies, spot on.

I never said it was EXACTLY the same. Obviously every crime is different, so you aren't going to find anything that is EXACTLY the same. But, I feel like smoking pot and file-sharing are about equally as "wrong," I consider them both to be essentially victim-less crimes, and are both only illegal because they lead to the "loss of revenue" from big businesses. (Hopefully I won't open a huge can of worms with that idea).

My original point still stands, if you are vehemently against anyone around you smoking pot, you should let people know up front. Sure, the band in the original post didn't handle themselves in a way that I personally would, but if I was so uptight about being around weed, I would make that loud and clear before I ever got together with a bunch of strangers in a band setting.


p.s. I know quite a few people that have gotten in trouble for smoking pot, and the only ones that have been arrested, thrown in jail, had to post bail, hire an attorney, or go to court were doing a lot more than taking a few puffs before a band practice (and were involved with a lot more than just weed).

[Russell L]

Crazy to pull that stuff out on a stranger. The OP could be in law enforcement for all they know.