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Old 01-08-2013, 01:42 PM
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and I know I don't play as well drunk so I'll never have more than two beers if I have any, so I'm going to be sober and I can see what's happening..

My experience has been, once a band goes past a certain limit, all useful practicing is over.
Thats a valid point, but its rendered moot when youre dealing with responsible smokers who see rehearsal as more than just a hang.

Smoking a bowl effects me about as much as drinking two beers does.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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Smoking a bowl effects me about as much as drinking two beers does.
Less fattening, too!
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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Absolutely, Bill. Though, it is easy enough to take the smoke outdoors.
Yeah, which is what I do, if there's time for me to take a cigarette break without wasting other people's time. Otherwise, I wait until the rehearsal's finished and we're heading to the pub.
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How was it idiotic ?

Outside of your little corner of the world, weed is still illegal as is "huffing"

Good for the goose...............
Not talking about legality. Smoking a joint is about as dangerous as having a few beers. Huffing paint is much, much more serious from a health standpoint, both physical and mental.
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if your goal is to work & succeed I'd say get out of that situation..

420 = lethargy

If the vocalists are participants even more of a reason, why would you destroy your instrument?..
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if your goal is to work & succeed I'd say get out of that situation..

420 = lethargy

If the vocalists are participants even more of a reason, why would you destroy your instrument?..
420 = lethargy is pretty much the norm, but not necessarily the rule. Snoop Lion is up to 11 blunts a day. He sure seems to get a lot done.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:57 PM
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420 = lethargy is pretty much the norm, but not necessarily the rule. Snoop Lion is up to 11 blunts a day. He sure seems to get a lot done.
Wiz Khalifa seems to be doing halfway decent himself. Not everyone gets on the cover of Rolling Stone, and he smokes more than a chimney.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:59 PM
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It is idiotic to pretend that this is even close to the same thing.
I was just joking...not trying to compare.

Actually I probably would have said something like..."thats ok, I brought my crack vial and was hoping you would have a butane torch!"
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Dont get me wrong, I get your concern, but I dont think not toking necessarily makes you the odd man out (it could, but doesnt necessarily have to), as most smokers can be completely cool, and good friends with those who dont smoke.
Yeah, I've played in bands of tokers and have never felt like the odd-man-out. They respected my decision to not toke and I respected their decisions to do so.

Bill's point about how smoke wafts around is really about the only issue I see here. Maybe a guy has asthma and doesn't want to be around any sort of smoke for instance. For that reason, I think they should have informed the OP first.
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Since it was an audition, maybe they were testing you to see how you would react to the 420. Auditions are more than just checking out your playing skills. They wanted to see how you would fit in with their band culture.
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Maybe a guy has asthma and doesn't want to be around any sort of smoke for instance. For that reason, I think they should have informed the OP first.
Well, if you've got asthma, trust me, you'll tell them that you can't handle being in the smoke as soon as it comes up. I've never seen anyone to have a problem with my asthma. And if they did, heck, their problems go deeper than 420..

Earlier I made the comparison between beer drinkers and pot smokers for a reason -- it's been too often that I've seen people who can't stop at a reasonable point with either substance. So for me it really isn't about what substance is being abused, it's the level of abuse and how that affects the band's ability to get any work done.
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Wiz Khalifa seems to be doing halfway decent himself. Not everyone gets on the cover of Rolling Stone, and he smokes more than a chimney.
I was writing about someone who wants to be articulate on their instrument & be able to work in a variety of genres..

If these guys can get high & perform at a high level I salute them!
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Since it was an audition, maybe they were testing you to see how you would react to the 420. Auditions are more than just checking out your playing skills. They wanted to see how you would fit in with their band culture.
LOL, 'culture.' Those guys are a bunch of major dorks for doing that. Seriously.
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I was writing about someone who wants to be articulate on their instrument & be able to work in a variety of genres..

If these guys can get high & perform at a high level I salute them!
I was kinda joking around, too

To be honest, I don't have any issue with the stuff, but a lot of that is because the people who I associate with on any level who do it only do it on their own time after they've already gotten their stuff done for the day. It's really no worse than someone coming home after work and winding down anyway they choose to.
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Well, if you've got asthma, trust me, you'll tell them that you can't handle being in the smoke as soon as it comes up. I've never seen anyone to have a problem with my asthma. And if they did, heck, their problems go deeper than 420..
That was really my point. It would be a good thing to know about the smoke & toke beforehand rather than unexpectedly being exposed to it.

Also, the OP asked that we leave the value judgements out of it as that topic has been beat to death.
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if your goal is to work & succeed I'd say get out of that situation..

420 = lethargy

If the vocalists are participants even more of a reason, why would you destroy your instrument?..
This is conjecture at best, and outright misinformation for sure.
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LOL, 'culture.' Those guys are a bunch of major dorks for doing that. Seriously.
Hey, I am not saying it was right thing to do but the truth is, during an audition, you are being checked out to see if you are a band fit. Are you too old compared to the rest of the band, are you too fat, are you too ugly. Do you shower, etc, etc.
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Hey, I am not saying it was right to do that but the truth is, during an audition, you are being checked out to see if you are a band fit. Are you too old compared to the rest of the band, are you too fat, are you too ugly. Do you shower, etc, etc.
I understand. I still say they are total dorks.
"Huh-huh..... we smoke weed, man... huh-huh......... We're all cool and stuff..... huh-huh.......... Are you cool, man?.......... Cool like us?..... Huh-huh-huh......"
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:38 PM
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This is conjecture at best, and outright misinformation for sure.
Inhaled smoke isn't good for a singers' stamina,

If the notes hit by the vocalist are an afterthought well then I guess it's A OK.

just my 2 cents..
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Inhaled smoke isn't good for a singers' stamina,

If the notes hit by the vocalist are an afterthought well then I guess it's A OK.

just my 2 cents..
Perhaps if we were talking about smoking a couple packs of Camels a day, but even then I'd have you explain Judy Garland, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, and a million others...

I was more taking issue with your insinuation that marijuana leads to lethargic, unsuccessful people. It's simply not true, and has about as much merit as any other negative stereotype.
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