About stage presence...

[lustersilk]

Originally Posted by kennydakid

I got the never do that again talk from the frontman in my band (3 piece) tonight who told me I need to move around less on stage. Let me know what you think, here's a link to a video. By the way I am glad I saw this I was going to post about this after my show but I found this thread first. This is a video from about 2 or 3 months ago but this is basically what i do on stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxphMLHcAHA

He wouldn't last an evening with me, I'm very active on the stage. I see nothing wrong here.

[bassinplace]

Originally Posted by kennydakid

I got the never do that again talk from the frontman in my band (3 piece) tonight who told me I need to move around less on stage. Let me know what you think, here's a link to a video. By the way I am glad I saw this I was going to post about this after my show but I found this thread first. This is a video from about 2 or 3 months ago but this is basically what i do on stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxphMLHcAHA

I'm at work, so I had to watch this with the sound off, but unless you're playing a ballad I see nothing wrong here. Based on the way everyone's moving, I'm sure you're not. Looks like your'e just groovin', feelin' the music. No big deal. Sounds to me like you might be dealing with a case of LSD.

[boynamedsuse]

Originally Posted by kennydakid

I got the never do that again talk from the frontman in my band (3 piece) tonight who told me I need to move around less on stage. Let me know what you think, here's a link to a video. By the way I am glad I saw this I was going to post about this after my show but I found this thread first. This is a video from about 2 or 3 months ago but this is basically what i do on stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxphMLHcAHA

You and the drummer are interesting to watch. The singer not so much.

[BogeyBass]

just ask young girls what they want to hear.

they like fun music that tells a story or has some sort of sexual energy.

It all plays out with the times.

Sorry to say i have seen alot of dorky bands, and heard alot of not so great singers. Sorry to say a bunch of fat dorky dudes dont get young girls/girls/women on the dance floor.

also bands that dont have a frontman dont seem to do as well, sure you all could provide plenty of examples likewise. but a local band with a stale sound and a bunch of guys staring at their guitars never does well.

And when a guitar/bass player does the lead singing it does not carry the same as a wild frontman. Mainly a attractive young frontman.

guess i could sound like a real ass right now, but mother nature plays its part, that is all im saying. Not being mean or trying to rustle feathers. I have seen some really really crappy bands full of a bunch of cute guys and the audience seems to pay attention.

Just think of watching a all female band with some real ugly looking weathered girls. You probably would not give a darn.

Then imagine a all girl band with really hot chicks, playing stupid silly fun songs. Might not be ear candy, but you probably would pay attention. and if you were the dancing type. Probably would shake your butt a little.

same thing with women, they are the ones that dance..men just follow
you can have all the stage presence in the world. if nobody gives a #### then nobody gives a ####

[guy n. cognito]

I don't think " young girls" is the term you were looking for.

[AuntieBeeb]

Originally Posted by guy n. cognito

I don't think " young girls" is the term you were looking for.

*adjusts dirty macintosh*
*rubs fingerless-gloved-hands together while laughing dirtily*

[spaz21387]

Originally Posted by kennydakid

I've talked to him about stage set up. I will say that most of our stages are goofy and tough to set up. The first video I posted was shot at an angle, the side of the stage that looks empty was inhabitable, but he could have probably moved over about 3 feet and thats it. I still think the stage set up would have looked better in if he moved over. The other video the stage was barely big enough for a drumset. He set up by one corner of the stage and gave the drummer the rest of it.

I am going to address this again at our next band meeting but he doesn't seem to listen to me on anything music or "stage" related. If the Drummer brings it up he at least considers it, I think its because our Drummer went to school for music.

We didn't have any video from our show on friday but here's a picture from the show. The stage was funky so we basically had to set it up this way

If my guitarist did this he would get bashed in the back of the head with my head stock in the first 3 seconds. Im always moving alot on stage. Im also the one to accidentally fall off the stage. Atleast im entertaining... right?

[hibachiduck]

Originally Posted by ThirtyOver

Same would happen here too. All Im saying is that maybe someone could think up a different standard for what "feeling the music can look like. We have seen bands that throw blood, rock around and break stuff, beat themselves up onstage, kick stuff, smash their own stuff, go out in the crowd, damn near make love to each other onstage, fall on their heads and keep playing like the fact their eyeball is hanging out doesn't phase them...

Think its time for people to either go all the way and just start attacking people or something "different"

I'd like to think what I do differently than area musicians is that I play good music









j/k hahahahahaha

[petrus61]

It's such a hard thing to get a band on the same terms musically sometimes.
You have to know your market. Are you playing for college kids? Über Liberal coffee sippers? Blue Collar Classic Rock station fans? Hipsters? I'm fortunate to be in an area where people appreciate "good" music in various forms, but its still a select market. I'm in the unfortunate situation where I'm playing with older guys who are excellent musicians, except they all cut their teeth on Classic Rock and 70's/80's easy (cheesy) listening. I come from a more eclectic background. I came up playing some original jam band, roots rock, alt country and some contemporary jazz/fusion covers, a la Scofield and Soulive. I'm a huge fan of classic rock but I know that our area is more receptive to good music than the standard Stones/Neil Young covers. So because I'm in an old dog/new tricks scenario, it's tough to get this across to these guys that we might be more successful if we branched out into more contemporary covers. I'm talking music that I don't personally like that I know will win a crowd, like Green Day or Foo Fighters. It's compounded by the fact that I don't sing (mostly), so I'm limited as to what songs I can introduce to the group. If I could sing, while maintaining the fluidity of my playing, it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm not getting these old boys to spit out any cheesy, new stuff unless I can take the vocal duties off their backs. My point being, is that if everyone isn't on the same page as far as likes and dislikes, it can often show in a live performance. I keep an open mind and glean what I can from all types of music and am at a point where I can play the stuff without wearing my disdain for it on my face. Some folks, especially younger musicians, don't get that it's a job too and there needs to be a certain level of respect applied to the material, whether they like it or not. One of the most successful bands I was ever in was a type of music I had no knowledge of or didnt care for at all (death metal) and the biggest lesson I learned from that was that even though I played the material we did well, I couldn't treat it like it was a jam rock gig or a classic rock gig, where stage presence doesn't include banging your head and twirling your hair. Not sure if this is your situation, but thought I would share my thoughts.

[dand666]

I move around a lot. ALways have done.

Kinda like http://youtu.be/RDnlU6rPfwY

[Moe Monsarrat]

If YOU don't look like you're having fun, don't expect the audience to get with it either. Somebody should talk to them in between songs every once in a while (and NOT say stupid stuff). You cannot just stand there and look at your shoes all night. That ain't entertainment. They don't know you or your band or your material so you have to do something to make them feel at ease and kinda break the ice. Some guys think the fact they are able to play is in itself, fascinating. It's not.

[4001]

Originally Posted by Moe Monsarrat

If YOU don't look like you're having fun, don't expect the audience to get with it either.

Ever see Ben Sheppard from Soundgarden play live??
He looks and gives looks like he wants to kill the people that are watching him.
How good of a stage presence is that?

Yet, the crowd loves him.

[kennydakid]

I saw soundgarden when they came through Boston in January. Ben still moves a bit on stage, but what I can say from my time seeing him, he just looked pissed every show. That being said, he isn't a statue on stage either, some sort of emotion comes out while he is playing.

[hibachiduck]

Famous bands can have shoddy presence and people will still come to see them. I've seen this happen with way too many national acts (sometimes even the performance is shoddy) and people still walk away saying "Wow, that was such a good show" because they've heard them on the radio. Oi

[Floyd Eye]

Way big difference between Soundgarden and some bar band.