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10-10-2009, 07:24 AM
|  | Bababooey to y'all | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Florida | | | Am I out of line in refusing a gig?
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I get a call a few weeks back from a guy who was refered by drummer I played with once. They need a bass player for an afternoon gig, it's going to be a thrown together band for a church BBQ fundraiser/open jam but as the host band we will get paid. I ask him to get me the particulars via email (songs I might want to look at, location and time etc) A week passes
I see an ad for the event $10 a head no mention of charity or church, yet I still haven't received any info as I requested.
A different guy calls me tells me the 1st guy lost the email addy. He wants me to show up for 2 rehearsals before the event. I ask again about what I should expect to be paid?
He said well what ever is leftover after the food is paid for we will get and split 4 ways, but it isn't about money it is about fun.
So I say " I am in 2 bands and having all the fun I need, if you can't guarentee me $100, I really can't invest my time."
With that he says forget it and hung up the phone...
Am I unreasonable?
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10-10-2009, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by troy mcclure  I get a call a few weeks back from a guy who was refered by drummer I played with once. They need a bass player for an afternoon gig, it's going to be a thrown together band for a church BBQ fundraiser/open jam but as the host band we will get paid. I ask him to get me the particulars via email (songs I might want to look at, location and time etc) A week passes
I see an ad for the event $10 a head no mention of charity or church, yet I still haven't received any info as I requested.
A different guy calls me tells me the 1st guy lost the email addy. He wants me to show up for 2 rehearsals before the event. I ask again about what I should expect to be paid?
He said well what ever is leftover after the food is paid for we will get and split 4 ways, but it isn't about money it is about fun.
So I say " I am in 2 bands and having all the fun I need, if you can't guarentee me $100, I really can't invest my time."
With that he says forget it and hung up the phone...
Am I unreasonable? | Nope, I think that if you want to play or don't, it is your choice.
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10-10-2009, 07:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia | | | Nope. I dont think so. |
10-10-2009, 07:29 AM
| | | | Hell no your not unreasonable. Its a poorly paying SUB gig with very little prep time. If your already in two bands and they didnt give you the information you requested your well within your rights to refuse. |
10-10-2009, 07:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | Nah. You're fine. For them to expect you to show up at two practices and a show without a quarentee is unreasonable.
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10-10-2009, 07:30 AM
| | | | Not at all. You have to treat your band as a business because at the end of the day thats exactly what it is. It sounds like they are after a group of thrown together amateurs. |
10-10-2009, 07:30 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Flint, Michigan | | | Not really, especially if you don't know any of them personally. |
10-10-2009, 07:43 AM
| | Blazin' Acadian | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ontario,705 | | | You are not unreasonable,but it's not about money
it's about fun,!!BIG red flag!! |
10-10-2009, 07:47 AM
|  | Bassist for The Patrick Godbey Band | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New Orleans, LA USA | | | I also think what you did is fine. You never committed to them and it sounds like the gig is poorly planned.
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10-10-2009, 07:49 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY | | | Yeah, but money is fun too.... LOL!
I don't think you are out of line. It sounds like a sub situation, especially with the rehearsals. Happen to know why their regular guy can't/won't do it? Or is it just a throw-together for the event? Either way, it's not your band, and it sounds like some guys you don't know are asking you to donate your time (with the POSSIBILITY of getting paid SOMETHING, MAYBE....) - if they want to do it, fine. If you don't, let them find someone else. |
10-10-2009, 07:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: wolcott ct. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Loel You are not unreasonable,but it's not about money
it's about fun,!!BIG red flag!! | I hate it when someone says it's fun. I don't play for fun, I enjoy playing, but that's a whole "nutter thing.
You were right to say no. It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Andy
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10-10-2009, 10:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Florida, in the U.S.A. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by troy mcclure So I say " I am in 2 bands and having all the fun I need, if you can't guarentee me $100, I really can't invest my time." | ^ And there you are.
A poorly planned SUB gig for less than $100.00???
Sorry, I don't need that kind of fun either.
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10-10-2009, 10:29 AM
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10-10-2009, 11:55 AM
| | Bababooey to y'all | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Florida | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ric stave Yeah, but money is fun too.... LOL!
I don't think you are out of line. It sounds like a sub situation, especially with the rehearsals. Happen to know why their regular guy can't/won't do it? Or is it just a throw-together for the event? Either way, it's not your band, and it sounds like some guys you don't know are asking you to donate your time (with the POSSIBILITY of getting paid SOMETHING, MAYBE....) - if they want to do it, fine. If you don't, let them find someone else. | Yeah just a throw together..... I have no reason to donate to a charity or church when I asked about it and no one could give me a straight answer. I have no problem playing with one of my bands for a free charity event everyonce in a while to promote the band.
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10-10-2009, 12:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Loel You are not unreasonable,but it's not about money
it's about fun,!!BIG red flag!! | Agreed. It also means the gig might end up costing you money.
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10-10-2009, 12:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: El Segundo, CA | | | wait you guys get paid for this
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10-10-2009, 12:08 PM
|  | bass... in your fass | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TalkBass > Band Management | | | Him hanging up on you pretty much confirms that you did the right thing. In other words, that move proves the guy is a jerk and why would you want to play with a jerk? |
10-10-2009, 12:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Portland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 7StringBassist Wait, you guys get paid for this?! | Grammar, its the difference between "I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse." And the alternative...
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10-10-2009, 12:17 PM
|  | Perfectly Adequate. | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Littleton, CO, USA | | | Clearly you know the opportunities you need. While some bass players need gigs regardless of payment just to get a name out there, sounds like you're past that point. You were straight up with him, they were disrespectful of your time.
I usually don't have the guts to say no to anyone haha, but if I were to say no, I would have said it exactly like that.
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10-10-2009, 12:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brookfield, CT | | | +1 to everyone but Loel. Not sure what he means.
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