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Old 02-01-2010, 12:43 PM
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This audition was a classic.

My last band broke up and I have been looking for a new one
on local CL. I run into a band looking for a bassist for 2 projects,
one original and one cover.

We talk. Audition is for Friday at 6:30. The I get a call
Thursday, change of plan. So now it is Sunday 4-7. I get to
miss Gard's favorite program, the Stupor Bowl Pro Bowl.

Anyway, Sunday I get 4 phone calls between 12 and 12:30.
Change of plan, 'My drummer and other guitarist can't make it.
You can come anyway and play with my singer and me
if you want.' Ok...

So I get there on time, plug in and start with the original stuff.
Guy says 'Did I tell you we tune to Eb?'

Errr, no.

I get retuned. The basement is kind of small, my head is
between 2 wooden ceiling joists. Any forward or backward
rocking will lead to a serious head injury, maybe a concussion.

'You don't mind if I smoke, do you? the guy says.

'It's your house, man. Do what you want.'

The guy fired up a cig, and then fired one off the other
for the next hour. The singer asked if I was a cop, I said no, (I
just play one on TB...) and fired off a bowlful of his favorite
ignitable recreational vice. At this point the smoke is so thick
my eyes are watering and I can't breathe.

I play along with the original tunes I had heard on Reverb nation
and he did have some charts. He told me I was
a bit 'busy', and I had to hang back and come in with the
(nonexistent) drummer. I noted I usually keyed off the
(nonexistent) drummer for that, no problem.

After a little more than an hour, we stop and talk. I had
mentioned at first contact I was looking for 12-18 gigs per
year. Now he says they are looking at 3-4 gigs a week. Not
bar gigs, though. 'Festivals and stuff'. And they are thinking
they can do 150+ gigs a year. Probably have to take a van
and do the Southern circuit as RI doesn't have much of a
market for Southern Rock. That's just for the original band.
The cover band does a full 12 gig a month schedule too.

'Oh, are they the same players in that band?

'Yep'

Oh my. These bands I have never heard of do 24 gigs a
month. In a market that doesn't have a lot of Southern
Rock gigs. In a market where bar owners are getting DJ's
or playing the radio so they don't have to hire bands.

At this point the guitarist tells me he doesn't drink much,
but starts his day getting toasted. Every day. He was getting
all toasty with the singer's stash right then as well.

Then I got the schtick about how this was going to be the
next 'Big Thing', and how he was then going to quit his day
job when that happened. We could all quit our day jobs.
Ok, you are 46 and the singer is 55+. Man, get a reality check.
(I'm gonna love living in a van...)


(At this point I wish I had bluewines telephone number for
moral support).

I said, 'Hey, I can only get you part of the way to where you
want to go. You need to groom another guy in the interim.'
Sometimes I stun myself with my own sense of diplomacy.

They give me the charts. I am supposed to come by at 8:30
on Friday to audition for the 'cover' band. They have another
bassist at 7 PM but they are going to lie to him and tell him I
am coming for the originals band audition. Nice...

I beat a hasty retreat. Not a moment too soon as I am about
to go into convulsions. Wish I had an oxygen tank in the car.

Fast forward to this morning. While I am getting ready for work
I blow my nose and green crud comes outta my face. No, I
don't have a cold. I really start thinking about this whole
business. Think I am going to have to blow off the second
audition, I can't do this and live, Just not a good fit. I have
a headache that won't go away.

Blue, how did you survive all this nonsense? I think I am
going back to building model airplanes for the winter. Doing
glue is probably safer.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:56 PM
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This audition was a classic.
Oh man, I'm cryin' from laughin' Thor!
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:13 PM
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wow....i figured this would be a bunch of high schoolers from what you mentioned. hard to believe these are adults.
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:18 PM
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I thought you meant an audition for Hank 3. lol
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ROFL, that's Craig's list, for ya....

At least they knew how to tune. The 24 gigs a month thing is great though, where do these guys think these gigs are coming from, are you supposed to drive to another state every day (returning for cover gigs of course)

Just curious, could they play at least?...I'm guessing no.
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:34 PM
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Then I got the schtick about how this was going to be the
next 'Big Thing', and how he was then going to quit his day
job when that happened. We could all quit our day jobs.
Ok, you are 46 and the singer is 55+. Man, get a reality check.
(I'm gonna love living in a van...)
I'm in a band with that guy!!!! That's an awesome tale of woe Thor! I know it sucks for you, but....... Oh man! I'm still LOLing out loud!


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Old 02-01-2010, 01:46 PM
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ROFL, that's Craig's list, for ya....

At least they knew how to tune. The 24 gigs a month thing is great though, where do these guys think these gigs are coming from, are you supposed to drive to another state every day (returning for cover gigs of course)

Just curious, could they play at least?...I'm guessing no.
They could play Gb, Db, Ab minor and B. Fingered as G, D, Am
and C, of course. I think there was an occasional E and F shape in there as well.


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Old 02-01-2010, 01:49 PM
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I'm in a band with that guy!!!! That's an awesome tale of woe Thor! I know it sucks for you, but....... Oh man! I'm still LOLing out loud!



Thanks, now I don't feel like a total idiot!
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Wow! Makes me glad I'm in a band with a bunch of bitter, disillusioned, old burnouts.
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Old 02-01-2010, 01:56 PM
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Oh my. These bands I have never heard of do 24 gigs a
month.
And the reason they couldn't have you come hear them at one of their many gigs was...
oh, never mind...

Good decision to bail, Rocky.
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:00 PM
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O, great story! Rivals My Canadian Adventure!

BTW, call out sick to the next audition!
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They could play Gb, Db, Ab minor and B. Fingered as G, D, Am
and C, of course. I think there was an occasional E and F shape in there as well.


At least they knew 3 tone chords
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:18 PM
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O, great story! Rivals My Canadian Adventure!

BTW, call out sick to the next audition!
Kevin, nothing will ever rival your Canadian Festival gig. That
was an all time classic clusterslop.
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:39 PM
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Thor - gotta know... did you get the sense that they were any good?

It reminds me of one audition I had for a jam/funk band a few years ago, before the whole legal medical marijuana movement.

I went to the drummer's house for the audition, and the band was Dead rip-offs, with years worth of noodling. Blech!

The guitarist and the drummer start firing up a bowl of said illegal substance. They ask me if I want a bit of it.

I respond with "You don't know what I do for my day job, do you?"

"No," replied the guitarist.

I said "I'm a Deputy Sheriff with The County."

The guitarist went ashen, so I immediately told him I was joking.

He said he was scared to death, since he was a middle school teacher, and he'd get fired immediately if he ever got caught smoking pot, and he'd be sorta blackballed out of teaching again because of it. Funny moment, though...
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Oh man. The "quit our day jobs" thing from burnout bandleaders deserves it's own thread, or possibly online forum. i certainly know that slice of life.

You should have said you were playing a bit busier than normal since the "drummer" was being too sparse. and that you wern't a cop, but you were pretty sure you could hear sirens...
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:52 PM
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Thor - gotta know... did you get the sense that they were any good?

It reminds me of one audition I had for a jam/funk band a few years ago, before the whole legal medical marijuana movement.

I went to the drummer's house for the audition, and the band was Dead rip-offs, with years worth of noodling. Blech!

The guitarist and the drummer start firing up a bowl of said illegal substance. They ask me if I want a bit of it.

I respond with "You don't know what I do for my day job, do you?"

"No," replied the guitarist.

I said "I'm a Deputy Sheriff with The County."

The guitarist went ashen, so I immediately told him I was joking.

He said he was scared to death, since he was a middle school teacher, and he'd get fired immediately if he ever got caught smoking pot, and he'd be sorta blackballed out of teaching again because of it. Funny moment, though...
Awesome.... i just spit cheese and crackers across the room and the dog scooped it up......well, at least I don't need to clean it up....
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Way to funny. Reminds me of way to many auditions. I "auditioned with a Contemporary Christian group", which I am one. Ten minutes into the audition, after I mentioned that a 7th cord and a major is not the same thing. These guys broke out the smoke and Keg, and proceeded to get ripped. I'm no saint, but funny in that setting. I played really bad and out of time until they asked me to leave.
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That was a classic post, man. Well written too.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:24 PM
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Sometimes I stun myself with my own sense of diplomacy.
Ha ha, you are too much!

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