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12-08-2012, 09:30 PM
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Though I'm playing rhythm guitar in my band instead of bass, is still think bassists are wiser with their advice. The problem I Am facing is that the guitarist got a singer for the band. Back when I started the band we agreed I would be the lead singer. I talked to the guitarist after I heard the new singer joined and told him I was singing. He was fine with it but the singer still showed up at our practice. I didnt want to say anything while the singer was there so I just went with. Now they're planning on having him be the singer. This pisses me off because I started the band, the guitarist didnt ask first, I probably won't be able to sing, and they never let me decide anything in the band. Please help. |
12-08-2012, 10:39 PM
| | | | It sounds like you are not the lead singer of the band, not anymore. Time to quit since you want to be the singer and the rest of the band doesn't want you to be the singer. |
12-08-2012, 10:56 PM
|  | Spector Owner Club #372 | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta | | | this could also be a discreet way of them saying they are having a creative difference with you. like trying to get a new singer while you're normally the singer, and they might be hoping it will push you away. |
12-09-2012, 01:30 PM
| | | | Not only are you not the lead singer, you're not even a voting member, let alone an equal partner in the enterprise. You're already gone; you just haven't left yet.
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12-09-2012, 01:34 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | | Well, let's all be honest here. OK I'll admit that was a tacky move on their part. But tell us this. Is the guy a much better singer than you? We may not have the whole story.
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12-09-2012, 01:36 PM
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12-09-2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by two fingers  Well, let's all be honest here. OK I'll admit that was a tacky move on their part. But tell us this. Is the guy a much better singer than you? We may not have the whole story. | +1.
Though it is an awful way of going about, they might be too embarrassed or worried about hurting your feelings to tell you how they feel about your singing.
Either that or they just plain old have zero respect for you.
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12-09-2012, 02:03 PM
|  | bass... in your fass | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TalkBass > Band Management | | | Call a meeting without the new singer and tell the band you aren't happy with this turn of events and THE BAND needs to make a democratic decision on it. At that point if you aren't happy with the vote you can decide whether to stay or not, or to start the struggle to regain some capital.
Unfortunately you have allowed "your" band to be appropriated and yourself to be marginalized. Once this has happened you either accept your marginal position or face a long hard fight to regain some input... or leave. Something to keep in mind for the future. |
12-09-2012, 02:06 PM
|  | Dangerous User | | Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Fort Wayne, IN | | | Why do you want to be the lead singer/bass player? If you want to get your audience, it's better to have a "naked" lead who can act as a front person. Of course, they have to be good, including having stage presence, and being good at banter.
I don't know, man. If it's your band, fire people until you have the band you want.
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12-09-2012, 02:31 PM
|  | Less barking, more wagging! | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Sounds like your band mates have made their decision.
Your decision is to leave or live with it.
The only thing in life we really have control of is our attitudes. No matter what your band mates do, or decide, YOU are solely in charge of the way you choose to react.
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12-09-2012, 04:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic +1.
Though it is an awful way of going about, they might be too embarrassed or worried about hurting your feelings to tell you how they feel about your singing.
Either that or they just plain old have zero respect for you. | That's what I was thinking. Bringing in an extra person means less money, so they must have had a reason. Did they say why they wanted to bring this guy in? |
12-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkMgibson That's what I was thinking. Bringing in an extra person means less money, so they must have had a reason. Did they say why they wanted to bring this guy in? | It's possible that the singer is just a friend of the other band members. Too much is unknown in this thread to make any kind of judgment. Are these novices, or seasoned players? Is this a profitable gigging band? |
12-09-2012, 05:11 PM
| | bass... in your fass | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TalkBass > Band Management | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fdeck Too much is unknown in this thread to make any kind of judgment. | LOL. The bane of virtually every TB/BM thread...... |
12-09-2012, 07:01 PM
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Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | So we still want to know - is the other singer better than you? Have the other members ever complained about your singing?
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12-09-2012, 07:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand | | I'm interested in this, and to see where it goes.
You say Quote: |
I didnt want to say anything while the singer was there so I just went with.
| seems like you have sat back and let things evolve and are subconciously letting things happen this way. It's probably too late now, if the band feels the new singer is better, they won't go back, you are stuck being the rhythm guitarist who does BV.
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12-11-2012, 05:36 PM
| | | | Does this new singer also play guitar? Maybe the rest of the band wanted a singer who is more of a "frontman". A Mick Jagger instead of a John Lennon, for example.
When my old band was starting like 12 years (!) ago, our drummer didn't like our singer, and without telling us invited a friend of his to our practice to "audition" to be the lead singer with the intention of moving our singer back to RG. Our singer was a very outspoken person, and just said "GET HIM THE **** OUT OF HERE!" The issue was never pressed again. Of course, myself and the other guy in the band had the singer's back.
Sorry to say, but your choice is to either play guitar in a band that really isn't YOUR band anymore, or leave and start anew. |
12-11-2012, 06:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WI | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by podiumboy Does this new singer also play guitar? Maybe the rest of the band wanted a singer who is more of a "frontman". A Mick Jagger instead of a John Lennon,. |
My opinion, Mick Jagger, icon status frontman.
The Beatles didn't have what would be considered a frontman.
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12-12-2012, 08:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego | | | Nothing says you can't BOTH do the singing.
However, it was somewhat underhanded. That is something that should definitely be agreed upon by the whole band before a move is made to add yet another ego and slice of the tiny tiny money pie from the gigs.
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12-12-2012, 09:23 AM
|  | Gettin' medieval on yo' bass... | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Like old Hampshire, but New | | | Whether the new guy is a better singer or not, this is an obvious case of bad band management. If the band wants someone else to be lead singer, they should discuss it and make an open decision. Instead, sounds like it's all passive-aggressive. You say you're the singer, they say "OK" but basically blow you off, the new guy comes in and you don't do anything about it. This is not going to end well.
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12-12-2012, 10:39 AM
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